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FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: October 12, 2018 06:08AM

I’m trying to see if it’s possible to add EPAS to my 64 Greenbrier. I have never removed the steering box or column out of an FC. it looks like the steering box and column are attached as one unit vs the cars. Does anyone know if this so, and if the column can separated from the steering box. My Greenbrier is rather pristine so I don’t want to hack into it without knowing more about it. In another thread some have suggested using an “ididit” column. I need to know more about this. My assembly and parts books don’t offer much detail & my service manual doesn’t elaborate either. Thank you to anyone with experience to share.

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: October 12, 2018 06:17AM

worm gear to steering wheel splines is 1 piece

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
63 Rampy
65 Greenbrier
64 Convertible

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: October 12, 2018 08:42AM

Mike, a '64 FC should have a column tube that separates from the box. You should see a clamp right at the floor board. But yes, the worm shaft is one piece. You certainly have good access for an EPS conversion on a FC. I recently worked on an FC that had a Ididit manual tilt column spliced to the FC column. It was nice except I didn't feel confident finding out they had a single set screw coupling holding the shafts together - and it was loose! I will follow your progress as I may convert my Greenbrier to EPS someday.

Dan Brizendine,
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: vairchet ()
Date: October 12, 2018 08:47AM

Since steering shaft is full length and tube is designed as a permanent component to steering box, front bumper and left lower body extension must be removed to service a FC steering column. See pages 4-19 and 10-92 through 10-93 in your '61 Corvair Shop Manual for an explanation to properly R & R FC steering column. Easy job if corrosion isn't an issue.

Chet in Ramona

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: October 12, 2018 03:05PM

Thanks to all for your input. I spoke with Geoff Mason at EPAS Performance in Sarasota, Florida via email. He told me to watch their Corvette C1 installation video. It would appear the steering on early Corvette is almost identical to the FC.

As vairchet pointed out, removing the steering gearbox requires removing the bumper and left lower extension panel. Then of course I have to remove the steering wheel, turn signal and housing and steering column to dash clamp in order to slide the steering shaft and gearbox. And then the need to cut the steering column tube and worm gear shaft. However, I have pretty good shop tools (Bridgeport mill, metal lathe, etc) to make it possible.

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: ken ()
Date: October 13, 2018 06:15AM

I took one out of parts van it it is quite a job .

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: October 13, 2018 06:44AM

Power steering was on the to do list for SuperVair.

Had most of the part needed for an install ready to go.

S/V has a universal application IDIDIT column in it already.

The IDIDT was really classy with tilt and all the modern parts.

epowersteering.com is the company that Arch used for P/S parts.

They have everything for purchase separately if you build your own.

It is also the company that Paul Beck used for his mid engine V8 car.

The actual electric steering gear motor is out of a 2002-07 Saturn Vue.

The good news with a Forward Control is you will have plenty of build room.

[corvaircenter.com]

[epowersteering.com]

[www.ididitinc.com]

[www.ebay.com]

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: October 14, 2018 06:05PM

Keep us posted about this project, please.thumbs up

I am vairy interested in doing the same to the V8 Rampside. smoking smiley

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia


1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: October 15, 2018 05:56PM

Hello Dean,

Missed seeing you at the Vairs at the Fair last week

I’ll start back up on the EPAS in a couple of weeks. Right now I have to help out with our local Corvette Club annual show. I’m trying to find an FC column and gearbox to try this before chopping on mine. I’ll take pictures with details if and when I get it done. EPAS Performance has kits for Corvairs but only for PG applications. Mine are 4 speed. They’ve never tried an FC and are eager to develop it. I don’t want to do a hack job, it must be 100% clean and neat.

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: October 15, 2018 06:55PM

They probably did the PG Corvair because the clutch and brake swing pedals are in the way with a four speed. Of coarse that wont be factor on the FC with pedals in the floor

Dan Brizendine,
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: SLlNKY ()
Date: October 16, 2018 07:48PM

im very interested in this because i use hand controls (wheelchair guy) and turning the wheel with one hand is quite the workout.

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: October 23, 2018 05:58PM

I managed to locate a 64 FC steering column and gearbox. Once I get it, I’ll buy the EPAS unit and start to adapt it. I’ll document it with video and pictures, in case it works correctly, for others to see and do. I think it’s very feasible in the FC’s to get electric power steering. For many of us with arthritis or other shoulder issues, or those handicapped who use only hand controls, it could make it better.

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: October 24, 2018 06:12PM

I had too much going on to make it to Vairs at the Fair, Mike.

Glad to see that you located a "guinea pig" setup.

Looking forward to your progress!

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia


1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: October 24, 2018 06:36PM

Hello Dean,

Jeff at Corvair Ranch had what I needed. I think this project will work for FC Corvairs. I’ve heard the arguments “No need for power steering” but for those of us who have custom wheel setups, or in your case, a V8 mid engine setup, power steering makes life better. In my case, our Corvette club loves riding in the Greenbrier.....go figure that one. We pack 9 non-slim people (includes me in that group) in the Greenbrier and off to a restaurant. BTW, Corvette people love to eat 😜.

Also, BTW, last Thursday at the West Melbourne Five Guys Burger car show, Mopats of Brevard gave me the First Place trophy for my Greenbrier. Over 200 cars there, many incredible cars at the show, and my little Greenbrier takes 1st place ???

64 Greenbrier
64 Spyder (needs restoration)
65 Corsa 140, restored
66 Corsa turbo, restoring now
66 Corsa 140 "RR" code coupe fully restored
67 Pontiac GTO restored
69 Corvette 427 convertible restored
2015 Porsche Panamera S
2015 Corvette Z06
1965 AC Cobra (Factory Five)

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Re: FC STEERING COLUMN
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: October 25, 2018 04:57PM

Congratulations, Mike, well-deserved!smileys with beer

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia


1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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