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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 11:55AM

1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
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> gnvair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NMCarNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > May be a dumb question but could "right"
> versus
> > > "left" hose location on A/C equipped 140 HP
> > > engines be yet another difference between WRN
> > and
> > > LOS assembly?
> >
> > No because the engines originated from the same
> > Tonawanda assembly plant. Also one of the cars
> I
> > mentioned was an LA built car. Again, 30k
> > untouched original Monza 140 PG car with right
> > side air hose
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> Yes, all Corvair engines were built in Tonawanda,
> NY
> BUT, the engines were shipped to the Assembly
> plant without any sheetmetal shrouds.
> Those were assembled to the engine in each
> different Chevrolet Assembly plant.
> [corvaircenter.com]
> 085,filename=1962_Corvair_assembly_line_layout_web
> .jpg
> Look on the right side of this Chevrolet graphic
> representation of Willow Run Chevrolet Corvair
> Assembly Line.
>
> IMHO, it's entirely possible that LOS could have
> used a different top shroud than WR.

Not likely Dan as there have been several LA built cars with the standard right side air inlet hose location.

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: solo2r ()
Date: September 27, 2018 12:55PM

The ac cars that have the outlet on the Drivers side sure look like a turbo outlet, as I mentioned earlier. Are those ones riveted as well?

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 01:44PM

solo2r Wrote:
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> The ac cars that have the outlet on the Drivers
> side sure look like a turbo outlet, as I mentioned
> earlier. Are those ones riveted as well?


The 66-67 2 carb engines with a/c used the same fan shroud as the 66 turbo engine albeit with the holes drilled for the idle solenoid. A turbo shroud would just have dimples where the holes should be drilled when used on an air conditioned vehicle.

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Date: September 27, 2018 03:35PM

Lee,
A Left side outlet could have been installed in Willow Run, too. I'm pointing out that it wasn't on the "RR" code engine as it left Tonawanda, NY.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 27, 2018 04:21PM

Out of 6 LM A/C cars I have 4 140s 2 LH 2 RH & 2LH 110s.
Why wouldn't they switch all of the to the LH? RH seems stupid.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: September 27, 2018 04:42PM

Nothing about Gem's solenoid or bracket or crossover lever has ever been tampered with.

It is completely original exactly as it came from the Van Nuys assembly plant in January 1966.

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:35PM

I know that this thread is about '66 A/C engines, but just to add info if anyone later wants to compare #'s for any reason.
My RT-140('67A/C) has the driver's side oval outlet.
Oh, and since someone asked . . . . . yes the tube still has the protective collar on it.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 08:19PM

1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
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> Lee,
> A Left side outlet could have been installed in
> Willow Run, too. I'm pointing out that it wasn't
> on the "RR" code engine as it left Tonawanda, NY.


Not true and I know someone who will most likely respond that can prove that one wrong.
That red car I posted was original RR code with right side inlet. Also a Willow Run car btw.

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: September 28, 2018 04:50AM

1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
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> Lee,
> A Left side outlet could have been installed in
> Willow Run, too. I'm pointing out that it wasn't
> on the "RR" code engine as it left Tonawanda, NY.

So....when they installed the left side outlet at Willow Run....what did they do about the right side hole? Cover it with a heater delete plate?

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 28, 2018 05:21AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> 1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lee,
> > A Left side outlet could have been installed in
> > Willow Run, too. I'm pointing out that it
> wasn't
> > on the "RR" code engine as it left Tonawanda,
> NY.
>
> So....when they installed the left side outlet at
> Willow Run....what did they do about the right
> side hole? Cover it with a heater delete plate?

The fan shrouds that had the left side outlet did not have the hole opened on the right side. All of turbocharged engines were the same way.

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: September 28, 2018 06:46AM

gnvair Wrote:
> The fan shrouds that had the left side outlet did
> not have the hole opened on the right side. All of
> turbocharged engines were the same way.


Thanks for cleaning that up. Didn't answer my question....but thanks.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 28, 2018 07:29AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> gnvair Wrote:
> > The fan shrouds that had the left side outlet
> did
> > not have the hole opened on the right side. All
> of
> > turbocharged engines were the same way.
>
>
> Thanks for cleaning that up. Didn't answer my
> question....but thanks.

They did not modify the fan shroud on the assembly line. The shrouds were already finished. A shroud with a left side outlet would only have the left side hole and not the right side. Is that what you are looking for? If not then please clarify.

Lee J

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 28, 2018 05:55PM

Wagon master, I surmise you're asking about an early. I think the left outlet thing applies only to the late model. I recall working on a spyder and struggling with that right outlet.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: September 28, 2018 06:52PM

I'm waiting for a fellow with an original 66 140HP A/C car to reply.

Meanwhile --- one thing not brought up is the 140HP top shrouds had the cutouts for the extra two carburetors. The factory could cut a two carburetor shroud to work on a 140HP four carburetor engine, BUT THE FACTORY COULD NOT USE THE 140HP shroud on a two carburetor engine (at least not cost effectively). It may be just as simple as an excess of 140HP shrouds meant they were used on some 66 A/C cars. Just speculating here.

Also there are TWO different shrouds with the drv. side oval outlet. The 66 two carburetor cars with A/C had a flat spot in the rib on the drv. side to clear the fast idle linkage (In 65 the fast idle was on the psg. side). I've see a few drv. side oval outlet shrouds with no flat spot in the rib. Not sure if the flat spot was only used in 66 cars with A/C or was also used on the turbo cars in 66.

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: September 28, 2018 06:57PM

I think the answer being that Chevy production knew which cars were AC and the correct shroud with one cut hole was prepositioned for that car. Shrouds were set up ahead of the time it was needed.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 28, 2018 08:50PM

66vairman wrote:"I'm waiting for a fellow with an original 66 140HP A/C car to reply."

??? The way I read it, several responses above are original cars.

I believe they were built both ways.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: October 01, 2018 05:03PM

I looked at a pretty original looking 66 Corsa Coupe in Kansas over the weekend and it had the fresh air outlet on the right side of the engine top shroud. It was an LA built car with an engine code T1210RR. I believe car was built 2nd week of December.

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: October 01, 2018 05:18PM

Tim - What color was it? My car is also a LOS Dec car. Mine was originally Aztec Bronze. Thanks.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: October 01, 2018 05:21PM

Not sure Mike as it was in a not well lit garage and it was also (I am sure) a repaint.

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Re: POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Date: October 01, 2018 05:41PM

Timothy,
Let's see a photo of the Fisher BOdy ID plate, please.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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