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POLL : Have a 1966 140 engine with AC?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 26, 2018 07:31PM

Those who have or had a 1966 Corvair, any trim level, with factory AC installed on a 140 engine, post which fresh air vent hose location you have on the shroud.

Center front, with an oval fitting, or on the right front side with a round fitting like most every other Corvair engine.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA



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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: solo2r ()
Date: September 26, 2018 07:35PM

Never seen one center front! I would like to see a picture! I thought they were like a turbo outlet.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: September 26, 2018 08:01PM

I have 3 all with fresh air duct on the RIGHT side.
Now my 110s with A/C are the oval shaped (riveted) on the LEFT side.
I have never seen a 140 top shroud with the oval shaped duct except home made ones.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 26, 2018 08:53PM

Left side

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Goop Of Oil ()
Date: September 26, 2018 09:21PM

Mine has it on the Left side.
It also has a protective "collar" around the 3 inch hose where the condenser fins are close to it. Can see it in the picture. Was on the car when I got it and still in nice shape. It is made of similar material to the 4 inch hose to starter solenoid protection "collar". http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C8281

I am glad it was still on the car because Clark's does not offer this A/C collar. Looks simple enough to make and could make it out of the Clark's part# above. Any other A/C owners out there that have found this 3 inch "collar" on their cars?

Mark Holmlund

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 03:40AM

A good friend has a 30k untouched original LA built 66 Monza coupe 140 PG a/c and it has the right side connection.
I have in my possession a fan shroud from an a/c Corsa that was parted out and it too has the right side connection.
Here is yet another original a/c Corsa I had at my house and it has the right side connection.

Lee J



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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: September 27, 2018 04:51AM

gnvair Wrote:
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> A good friend has a 30k untouched original LA
> built 66 Monza coupe.

Someone touched your friends A/C compressor and condenser

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 05:57AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> gnvair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A good friend has a 30k untouched original LA
> > built 66 Monza coupe.
>
> Someone touched your friends A/C compressor and
> condenser
The picture is of the a/c Corsa

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: 2ragtops ()
Date: September 27, 2018 06:11AM

Mine is immediately left of center, with an oval opening and it still has the foam collar.

Bob Bauer

Show-Me Corvairs

1966 Monza Convert 140 P/G with A/C, plastic wheel with tele-column am-fm posi-traction
1966 Corsa Convert 180 wood wheel tele-column am-fm sport steering posi-traction
1965 Corsa Coupe Crown V8 temporarily red lined for repair
House Springs, Missouri

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 06:28AM

The 1970 parts book does not list a specific fan shroud for a 140 with air conditioning.
It lists a shroud for air conditioning with the exceptions and then it lists on for the 140.
That is not to say that it was not a super ceded or discontinued by the time of my catalog.
The 66-69 140 shrouds I have all have the dimples for drilling the holes for the idle solenoid for the air conditioning cars.
I just wonder about the cars with the left side oval hole. Was there ever a part number assigned to that? Anyone have an older parts book from 1966, 67, 68, etc?

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: September 27, 2018 06:36AM

Gem is 1966/500/140/PG/2E/RY/36K unmolested all original passenger side fresh air hose.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:14AM

My '67 parts book does not show a 140 w A/C shroud. The upper shroud listing for 140 does not include any qualifiers or exceptions.

My GUESS is the left-outlet shroud was required for the '61-5 style condenser and phased out (used-up) during the '66 production run.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:21AM

Left of center is what I meant by center....grinning smiley

GEM also still has the foam collar Mark mentions.

Lee, the red car does not count, as the engine could have been changed and that is the reason the AC equipment is missing ("I need to put in a good engine, but this crap is making it hard...."winking smiley). Are the holes still in the shroud where the solenoid was mounted (I know, check picture as car is long gone from you)? Now, if the high mount compressor bracket was still bolted to the engine, that would change my mind.thumbs up

Interesting, GEM is coded for factory installed air. Unless in 30K miles it already broke the mount holes for the solenoid and was replaced with what they could find...grinning smiley My 66 95 AC had already broken the holes and shroud replaced by the time my friend got it with 50K on it.

Keep 'em coming. Interesting results.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:23AM

The RR I had was a right sided vent. This motor is now in Art Fox’s (ACP / PUI) ‘66 Corsa convertible.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:48AM

Craig, your GUESS may not be accurate as my all original 67 Monza Sport Sedan (Mark Corbin's car) has the oval shaped fresh air duct
on the left side. This car was made half way thru the model year. Of course it is a 110HP.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 07:52AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> Left of center is what I meant by center....grinning smiley
>
> GEM also still has the foam collar Mark mentions.
>
> Lee, the red car does not count, as the engine
> could have been changed and that is the reason the
> AC equipment is missing ("I need to put in a good
> engine, but this crap is making it hard...."winking smiley).
> Are the holes still in the shroud where the
> solenoid was mounted (I know, check picture as car
> is long gone from you)? Now, if the high mount
> compressor bracket was still bolted to the engine,
> that would change my mind.thumbs up
>
> Interesting, GEM is coded for factory installed
> air. Unless in 30K miles it already broke the
> mount holes for the solenoid and was replaced with
> what they could find...grinning smiley My 66 95 AC had already
> broken the holes and shroud replaced by the time
> my friend got it with 50K on it.
>
> Keep 'em coming. Interesting results.

That red car still had the original RR coded block. It is a February date code if that matters. It was not changed. All the a/c parts were in the trunk. Trust me on that!

Lee J



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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: NMCarNut ()
Date: September 27, 2018 08:05AM

May be a dumb question but could "right" versus "left" hose location on A/C equipped 140 HP engines be yet another difference between WRN and LOS assembly?

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: September 27, 2018 08:37AM

NMCarNut Wrote:
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> May be a dumb question but could "right" versus
> "left" hose location on A/C equipped 140 HP
> engines be yet another difference between WRN and
> LOS assembly?

No because the engines originated from the same Tonawanda assembly plant. Also one of the cars I mentioned was an LA built car. Again, 30k untouched original Monza 140 PG car with right side air hose

Lee J

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Posted by: 2manyvairs2fix ()
Date: September 27, 2018 09:29AM

After seeing this thread I went out and checked. The LA build A/C Corsa I have is also a right side fresh air hose car.

Rod Kennen- In Newton, NC
42 years in collision and restoration.
Corvair fixation since 1977
Member of CORSA and NC Mountain Corvairs
1966 Corsa A/C coupe- Mechanically repaired driver
1966 Corsa "140" conv. former Crown project
1969 Monza "110/4" conv. 4280 original miles.

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Re: 1966 140 engine with AC poll
Date: September 27, 2018 11:23AM

gnvair Wrote:
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> NMCarNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > May be a dumb question but could "right" versus
> > "left" hose location on A/C equipped 140 HP
> > engines be yet another difference between WRN
> and
> > LOS assembly?
>
> No because the engines originated from the same
> Tonawanda assembly plant. Also one of the cars I
> mentioned was an LA built car. Again, 30k
> untouched original Monza 140 PG car with right
> side air hose
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Yes, all Corvair engines were built in Tonawanda, NY
BUT, the engines were shipped to the Assembly plant without any sheetmetal shrouds.
Those were assembled to the engine in each different Chevrolet Assembly plant.

Look on the right side of this Chevrolet graphic representation of Willow Run Chevrolet Corvair Assembly Line.

IMHO, it's entirely possible that LOS could have used a different top shroud than WR.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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