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OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 20, 2018 02:52PM

Any Plumbers out there, who could help?

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 20, 2018 07:09PM

Physically or answer a question?

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 20, 2018 07:16PM

grinning smiley
sure frank, just run up to ottawa real quick!
grinning smiley

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 20, 2018 07:18PM

Frank, Are you a plumber?

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 20, 2018 07:18PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> grinning smiley
> sure frank, just run up to ottawa real quick!
> grinning smiley

I think at our age Frank would drive and not run. lol

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: September 20, 2018 07:21PM

Tony:

Probably a lot of us have done plumbing work throughout the years. If it is a flow dynamics, most of can't answer. But most can answer simple assembly & layout questions.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

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1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 20, 2018 08:37PM

Right. I'm not a licensed plumber, but I do a lot of plumbing design work/modifications as an Engineer. Mostly cooling systems.

I also have the plumbing building codes for Virginia. They follow IBC rules. International Building Code.

So I'll answer what I can, and not answer what I do not know.

I DO have a Master Electrician Tradesman License here in Virginia if you have any electrical questionsgrinning smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA



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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 21, 2018 04:35AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> Right. I'm not a licensed plumber, but I do a lot
> of plumbing design work/modifications as an
> Engineer. Mostly cooling systems.
>
> I also have the plumbing building codes for
> Virginia. They follow IBC rules. International
> Building Code.
>
> So I'll answer what I can, and not answer what I
> do not know.
>
> I DO have a Master Electrician Tradesman License
> here in Virginia if you have any electrical
> questionsgrinning smiley


Oh boy!! You should not have told me about the METL. Grin
Now I know where to go when it comes time to wire up the house side of the UltravanS, LOL

Check your PMs...

Thanks Frank

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 24, 2018 07:56AM

One down and one more to go..




New Ball Valve located under recent pipe work, that is going nowhere, is the hot supply for the new laundry machine.
The pipe above where it is cleaned in two places is for the cold supply and it will have to be another time.
I purchased the wrong size valve for this one and the store was close by the time I got that far in this project and we had to have water for the night.


The second whole house water filter just arrived at the store this morning.
It will hang from this pipe to the left of the 2x4 above it.




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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: 7004doorL ()
Date: September 24, 2018 07:21PM

Hi OttowaCorvairGuy.

If I am seeing a pressure/temperature safety valve with a toggle thingy atop the Galvanized Tee Fitting?

Then, I am thinking the safety valve should be mounted on a port on the side of
the Hot Water Heater. And Plumbed to the outside.
They hardly ever go but just in case?

It looks like the new Ball Valve for the new laundry machine is exiting through the wall?
The new looking Ball Valve and the Galvanized Tee have what looks like the
Pressure/Temperature Safety Valve with a toggle thingy on top
to release pressure manually.

I am not sure if that location will provide safety for the Hot Water Heater.
Without over pressurizing every thing downstream of the Hot Water Heater?

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I have no license but did design work and was responsible
for the plumbing and the heated washing and heated rinsing with De-Ionized Water of the circuit boards at an electronics factory for 18 Years.

I hope this helps.

Mike
1960 4 Door
80HP PG

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 24, 2018 09:49PM

The PT valve should have a piece of pipe on the outlet that almost reaches the floor. That way hot water/steam will be directed to the floor area instead of a person who might be standing there. The PT valve also needs to be in a port on the water heater.

504.4.1 Installation. Such valves shall be installed in the
shell of the water heater tank. Temperature relief valves
shall be so located in the tank as to be actuated by the
water in the top 6 inches (152 mm) of the tank served. For
installations with separate storage tanks, the approved,
self-closing (levered) pressure relief valve and temperature
relief valve or combination thereof conforming to
ANSI Z21.22 valves shall be installed on both the storage
water heater and storage tank. There shall not be a check
valve or shutoff valve between a relief valve and the heater
or tank served.

504.6 Requirements for discharge piping. The discharge
piping serving a pressure relief valve, temperature relief
valve or combination thereof shall:


5. Discharge to the floor, to the pan serving the water
heater or storage tank, to a waste receptor or to the
outdoors.
6. Discharge in a manner that does not cause personal
injury or structural damage.
7. Discharge to a termination point that is readily
observable by the building occupants.

So, is there another port within 6 inches of the top of this tank?

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 24, 2018 10:01PM

You can use Sammys (or another brand) to hang threaded rod down from that 2 x 4. Or you can use the old flange type.

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Then at the pipe end of the threaded rod is a hanger, like this copper plated one:

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I see you do use Sharkbites (the new ball valve in picture). Excellent in these situations.

Mixing copper and galvanized is a leak waiting to happen, but not much you can do at the moment to fix it. Whole replacement of the system is the fix. Might be years before any galvanic corrosion makes a leak to worry about.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 25, 2018 07:39PM

1. The Pressure valve was originally on top of the FIRST Galvanized T Fitting.
The pipe seen going to the right off the FIRST fitting is the hot water supply for the house.
MY CHANGE: I simply removed the Pressure relief valve and added a SECOND Galvanized T Fitting on top of the FIRST fitting - so I would have a place to add the hot water supply for the washing machine

2. The new Ball-valve facing the wall that comes off the SECOND Galvanized T Fitting is for the hot water supply to the washing machine... NOT hooked up yet.

3. The 1/2" pipe that disappears above the new ball-valve and goes under the looped wire hanging on the pipe above it - is for the pressure relief valve discharge.
That Pipe dumps into a stand pipe that is over 3 feet tall. NO WAY - for anyone to have hot water or steam get on them should the valve allow pressure - hot water and/or steam to escape..

4. Today I ran to HD and picked up the second filter system we ordered.
It will go on the pipe seen in the 2nd picture and be located to the left of the bolt hanging down from the 2x4 with the large flat washer on it just above the pipe.
This section of pipe supplies the back part of the house with cold water.
While the 1st filter supplies the front part of the house and the new washing machine..
I also picked up a pipe hanger to help carry the weight of the 2nd filter canister and the extra water that will be in it.



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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 28, 2018 06:56AM

Yesterday was a busy day.
It finally stopped rain - so I was able to remove the Wayne 100 engine out of my truck.
I then had to go to the self serve car wash and clean out the truck bed from nasty leaking oil and rain water mess.
I needed a clean truck bed to move household items.
I then went and clean out 90% of our storage locker. That was a project that I had hoped to get done back in Aug to save on storage fees.
But sadly my poor attempt of rescuing an Ultravan kept me away from home for the month of Aug.

Anyway, Last night at 8pm I had finished installing the second water filter for our house. It is the one on top..
The boss (Mrs) asked me to move the older dirtier filter to the one for the 3 full bathrooms. The newer cleaner (white) filter is seen in the lower filter now.


Here is a better description of the front house filter setup I did about a week ago.
I also installed the cold water supply for the washing machine while I was installing the second filter above, that is for the rear of the house.




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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 28, 2018 07:32AM

What Micron are the filters?





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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 28, 2018 08:59AM

MattNall Wrote:
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> What Micron are the filters?


What came with the filter system is better than what we had. Which was nothing, other than a small charcoal filter, at the sink, for drinking and cooking.

What came with the filter setup was 50 micron... Since they are already paid for and came as part of the filter system; we are using them for testing.
We want to see how long they last with our kind of water.

Once we see how long they last we will be switching to 25 or 20 micron (whichever is next lower one) and then 10.

After we have results to compare - we might look into a multi filter setup for at least the front of the house.
50 micron to a 25 or 20 then to a 10 micron and maybe even down to a 5 micron, with a charcoal under the sink.

Right now - we just wanted to protect the new washing machine (before hooking it up) as much as we can.



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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 29, 2018 07:57PM

I've thought it would be nice to run separate systems so you could run unfiltered water to toilets and such. Maybe just a chlorine filter to the showers.

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: September 29, 2018 08:32PM

we have sediment and such in our well water causes staining of the porcelain and other issues..

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Re: OT - Plumber Help Please
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:08PM

And man do you get tired of scrubbing!!





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