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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: August 10, 2020 03:05AM

Thanks Craig!thumbs up

Can you post a photo of the latch mechanism attached to the lid?

Do you have any photos of the area behind the license plate?

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: TheRealHip ()
Date: August 12, 2020 07:28AM

Craig no disrespect but,, the top middle pulley is that your tentioner? Shouldn't it be pushing the belt down instead of up?

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: August 12, 2020 08:52AM

TheRealHip Wrote:
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> Craig no disrespect but,, the top middle pulley is that your tentioner? Shouldn't it be pushing the belt down instead of up?

Ideally, I'll bet he wished the idler could be over by the alternator instead. The A/C compressor has about 180 degrees of belt contact but the alternator barely has 90. I'm sure the lack of space limited the options but an idler over there pushing down could get a better wrap on the Alt pulley.



Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: boudin ()
Date: August 14, 2020 12:13PM

love the look of the serpentine belt, went with the v belts on my 4.3. Any reason for the serpentine belt?

chris davis, olive branch Ms. 66 monza vert 4.3 tbi

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: August 29, 2020 04:46PM

Finally received the thick-walled tubing and made the second spacer required to complete the AC compressor bracket.

Installed the new spacer along with the new fan belts for the AC compressor and the alternator, then completed a test run of the engine.

Although the alternator appears to wobble in the following video, it must be an optical illusion because it's rock solid to the naked eye.

However, I will look into making another bracket to stabilize the back side of the alternator.

Running the engine with the new pulleys and brackets

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Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: TheRealHip ()
Date: August 30, 2020 09:17AM

Alternator is definitely moving.

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: August 30, 2020 10:26AM

TheRealHip Wrote:
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> Alternator is definitely moving.


I have to agree.
While it appears to be solidly mounted when looking at it with the naked eye, the camera is able to pickup the small oscillations.
Camera shutter speed can do funny things.
The image shutter speed can make things visible that the eye does not notice.
I would bet that the Alternator is probably actually moving at twice the speed it looks like in the video.
Ever notice how often wheels appear to be rotating backwards in videos?
I think Eric Page can explain it WAAAY better than I failed to do.

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Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: August 30, 2020 05:28PM

I ran the engine again today and carefully watched the alternator which showed a small amount of vibration.

Now I just need to figure out how to add another brace...

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: August 30, 2020 05:54PM

Finally received the back ordered Clark's reproduced 65-66 padded dash kit and recovered the base today.

It looks pretty good, if I say so myself.

The instructions are very good but I made two changes that I believe made it easier:

1. After removing the excess foam as instructed in Step 10, decided to glue the base to the inside of the pad BEFORE trimming the vinyl because this ensured that it would remain fixed inside the pad to allow proper trimming.

2. After manually cutting the "U" cutouts with a razor blade at the back "speaker" corners, I discovered that using a paper hole puncher and sharp scissors allowed for better "U" cutouts.













Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 05, 2020 05:46PM

Clocked another alternator that I had, fabricated a new bracket to secure the back of the alternator and then discovered that the large nut holding the backing plate was not tight, so tightened it down.

Ran the engine and confirmed that the alternator vibration issue has been resolved.

Click here for the video...
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Big shout out to my mentor, Ken Arnold! thumbs up
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Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 07, 2020 09:12AM

Time to "fit" the engine into the engine bay to determine how much of the rear frame rail needs to be removed.

Lifted the engine off the test stand and placed it on the rolling hydraulic table.

Fashioned a wooden stand to keep it stable on the table.







Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 07, 2020 06:20PM

First 3 photos show the tight fit without the crank pulley installed.

Then cut away the frame rail in a square for the initial removal and test fit.

Now that the engine will fit with room to change the belts, the next step is to trim the remains of the decklid latch support bracket, cut the frame rail corners off at 45 degrees to make it a smoother look, then weld in plates to cover the opening.
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Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
Springfest Webmaster

1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 08, 2020 09:26AM

That's a big bite! When I cut mine, I boxed what remained to try and bring back some strength.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: September 08, 2020 09:45AM

cnicol Wrote:
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> That's a big bite!


Tis but a scratch! grinning smiley



Project is looking good Dean!

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 08, 2020 05:13PM

Go big or go home! grinning smiley

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: guthrie1068 ()
Date: September 10, 2020 11:30AM

thumbs up thumbs up

Chad Guthrie
Onondaga, MI
'63 convertible

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 10, 2020 12:33PM

Late to answer but... Craig replies in blue:

TheRealHip Wrote:
Craig no disrespect but,, the top middle pulley is that your tensioner? Shouldn't it be pushing the belt down instead of up?
The top-middle pulley is an idler with a grooved-pulley. Pushing up provides exactly the same tension as pushing down; I see no technical difference. With the belt under the idler it would be nearly touching the belt below, and this is a new, unstretched belt. I think contact could be possible as the belt ages.

azdave Wrote:

Ideally, I'll bet he wished the idler could be over by the alternator instead. The A/C compressor has about 180 degrees of belt contact but the alternator barely has 90. I'm sure the lack of space limited the options but an idler over there pushing down could get a better wrap on the Alt pulley.

The alternator has considerably more than a 90 degree wrap, plus it's a 6 or 7 rib poly-vee. This probably has 5x the drive capability of a stock Corvair alternator and belt. As for location, I wanted the idler near the middle of the long belt span so the long span wouldn't "rubber band".

Boudin Wrote:
Love the look of the serpentine belt, went with the v belts on my 4.3. Any reason for the serpentine belt?

There are no reverse rotation water pumps for the BOP V8 so the pump has to drive off the back-side of the belt; This requires a double-sided V-belt. A flat pulley for the driving the water pump with the backside of the serpentine belt is readily available. While there are scores of poly-v belt lengths available, there are only a couple of Double-sided-V belt lengths, plus the belt is running an A/C compressor. That's a lot to ask of a single V-belt. Between lack of available lengths and the desire to drive all components, the Poly-V becomes the obvious choice.
I thought about all of this before I built the system. The only thing I didn't take into consideration was the body sheet metal in the latch area. I had to cut that out and relocate the latch. (Oops)


Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts




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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: September 12, 2020 12:20PM

There are electric options. Meziere 42 GPM [www.meziere.com]

Seth Emerson

Check my new Performance Corvair Web site [www.perfvair.com]

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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 12, 2020 06:09PM

Cut the corners off at 45 degree angle, welded in plates and painted the rear frame rail.









Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
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Re: 65 V8 Coupe w/Buick 215 - Racecar to Streetcar Build smoking smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 12, 2020 07:35PM

Lookin' good. thumbs up

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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