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Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 09, 2018 05:24PM

Day before yesterday we decided to pull a head... Quick spray with PB and only one nut galled and froze....

Last night after moving engine to my shop... spraysed PB

This Morning sprayed with ST Lube....

Came back 2 hrs.later and not a squeak........

Galled Stud in Vice was treated the same.... came off, but stubbornly...

So bad I got out my HF Tap and die set...

A little ST Lube and is great now...

Sadly my Thread locker is old and dried up... BET Wally has it!

And to think.... I bought a new auto-light Torch head this am for my Mapp gas





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2018 05:55PM by MattNall.

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: August 09, 2018 06:37PM

Whatever works for you, is the best to use. Not every product works every time. My favorite is now Deep Creep, by the makers of Sea Foam. I have tried them all, and I still have half full cans of most of them. When one doesn't work, I try something else. what one has to consider is the metallurgy and the type of rust it forms. This is why some penetrants work better than others depending on what you are using them on. Deep Creep loosened the nuts on the lower control arm rods, where the PBblaster didn't do anything. I have a gallon jug of PBblaster and WD-40. Can't get Deep Creep in anything other than a spray can. I buy it when it goes on sale at NAPA.

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 09, 2018 06:40PM

Actually I feel the ST Lube was the key...





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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: August 09, 2018 06:51PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Actually I feel the ST Lube was the key...


But there is always KY lube, Actually I have them all, sometimes one works better than others, maybe different types of rust corrosion and metals. If I had to rate the most success it would probably be KROIL, especially for plumbing..

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: August 09, 2018 07:00PM

Second Kroil, tough stuff.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: Pacerace ()
Date: August 09, 2018 07:03PM

I love PB Blaster, and it's the only penetrant I seem to have luck with. I haven't tried the Supertech penetrant, BUT I have found the Supertech carb cleaner to be the most aggressive I've used!

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 09, 2018 07:07PM

Chandler... NOT Penetrant... LUBE after PB blaster... I always use a lube after penetrant... but the ST LUBE works super... and at $1.97 a can....

Even though most "penetrants" say & Lube.... hard to believe!! gg





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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: UGLYTRUK ()
Date: August 09, 2018 07:26PM

Project Farm on ytube did a very comprehensive review all all above products. Worth watching

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: August 10, 2018 04:54AM

I like buying gallon cans, Liquid Wrench wasn't available last time so I bought PB Blaster. I think I like Liquid Wrench better. I'd like to try Kroil, the oil that creeps. A gallon lasts a while so it's a long term commitment.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: August 10, 2018 08:48AM

FYI, if you create used oil to be recycled Kroil has something that will turn that oil into a hazardous waste that will cost for disposal if it ends up in your oil.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: ken ()
Date: August 10, 2018 11:15AM

50/50 mix of acetone and transmission fluid is the best IMHO

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: August 10, 2018 02:08PM

I used Kroil [www.kanolabs.com] recently to prepare the suspension components from my 1965 Monza coupe.

In preparation, I applied it liberally on the front suspension cage nuts and around the rear trailing arm mounting bolts along with every nut and bolt I was able to get to and/or think of.
I let it sit for a while and reapplied it a few more times well ahead of the day I actually wanted to start removing the components.

While removing the gas tank, front crossmember and individual components such as shocks, upper & lower control arms, brake reaction rods, sway bar mounting, rear trailing arms, rear crossmember, shocks, steering box and much more, only one bolt broke on me. It was one of the rear trailing arm mounting bolts (3/8-16) which I have since drilled out and re-threaded successfully. I didn't even break the "J" bolts that hold the gas tank strap in place or any of the camber adjusting bolts.

Maybe because I was prepared to replace all of those bolts and purchased many of them before starting the project, Murphy intervened and prevented the bolts from breaking....Naah, that couldn't be it.
It must have been preparation and patience that resulted in the success of the removal process.

When I went looking locally for another can of Kroil, it wasn't to be found so I settled for a newer product by CRC called Knock'er Loose (Part # 03020) [www.crcindustries.com] that I found at the local NAPA Store.

The other version I have used with success is by WD40 called Rust Release Penetrant Spray [www.wd40specialist.com]

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: UGLYTRUK ()
Date: August 11, 2018 03:36AM

I use oxy acetylene. IMHO, no pentrant, none, zero, is going to penetrate and allow successful removal of rusty fasteners. Even if the bolt wouldcome loose, the rust in the threads would jam, therefore impeding the rotation, and causing the fastener to bind, and ultimately to break. Maybe my rust is worse than your rust???

After I successfully torch red hot and cool the fastener, remove it, 99% of time they never break, I clean the threads on my power wire wheel. Every fastener-every time.

I just finished RR the Rt trailering arm on my rust free As Monza. I didn't have to use the torch on anything except the short brake line. The nut came loose, but it wouldn't spin on the pipe. I heated it whilst spraying water on the adjacent hydraulic hose. I don't have the patience, or the for-thought to spray the various attachments with whatever product.

Out come the torches-100% success quaranteed

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: August 12, 2018 06:47AM

Kroil is probably the best penatrant I've ever used. Torch gets used if I don't need to save a bushing or near something flamable.

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Southern Maine.
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66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.
65 Monza Convertible, 110, PG.




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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: streblerm ()
Date: August 12, 2018 07:04AM

I’m with junkman. Seafoam Deep Creep is hands down the best penetrating oil I have ever used. Living in the heart of the rust belt I’ve pretty much tried them all including Kroil, which is good stuff.

Deep Creep is non flammable and doesn’t stink. We call it miracle oil at the shop. What sold me was using it on tie rod jam nuts for wheel alignments. Back the rusty jam nut off with two wrenches and you can spin it back over the formerly rusty threads with your fingers, every time.

If you can get just a tiny tiny bit of movement the deep Creep works in and does its job.

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: red monza ()
Date: August 12, 2018 08:11AM

W-D 40 SPECIALIST ( in the black and silver can)

You can actually see the rust pour out of the item you are spraying. You can also actually see it running the threads.

Experience
The latest....ever tried to loosen up the tie rod sleeves on a Corvair that is original to the car? Good luck!! You cannot even see the treads most of the time. Well, it took me about 2 hours on the first one spraying it every 10 min or so, the 2nd one took about 10 minutes to loosen as I started spraying it at the same time I sprayed the first one though the 1st one was the problem. You will see rusty WD-40 pouring out of the sprayed part. You will also see it following the treads.
The C3 Corvette forum gives anywhere from 3 days to 7 days of spraying the rear strut rod bolts to loosen them enough to change out the bushings. The first day, I had one side off by the end of the day and by the end of the 2nd day, the other one. Thank you WD-40 SPECIALIST.

PB Blaster I have found is only an oiler source....nothing more. I use it on my Nissan PU to oil one pulley that makes a noise. It has NEVER helped me remove a rusted bolt/nut except after I have already loosened it.

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Re: Happy with PB Blaster and Wally's Supertech Lubricant!
Posted by: UGLYTRUK ()
Date: August 12, 2018 05:17PM

I'll guess I'll have to try one of these magic oils one day.

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