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Unreachable? Please say no.
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: June 12, 2018 05:59PM

Does anyone have any tricks for getting to this screw that don't involve removing the alternator? Thanks.

Eric

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA
- Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County & South Coast CORSA Los Angeles California Chapters. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Getting there.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Re: Unreachable? Please say no.
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:08PM

What about a hex screw driver tip and rotate the tip with a suitably sized small wrench?

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Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:12PM

I'd see you could grab the perimeter with a pair of needle-nose vice-grip pliers. If not, use them to turn the shank a little until the head is above the sheet metal. The factory screw for that location had a hex-head so it's normally easy to remove.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
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Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:14PM

They make a 90 deg screw driver with Philips head, also that is the wrong screw, Stock ones are hex heads you can get a wrench on.





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Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:19PM

I was pretty sure that was the wrong screw. I remember the oil evaporation thingy-- that's what it's called right?-- being a lot easier to remove in my last Corvair.

I've tried pliers and they won't grab on. Believe it or not a hex screwdriver attachment with a Phillips head is still too big, and I have one of those curved screwdrivers but it curves with an inch of space and that is too much. Anybody know of one that's even smaller than that?

I've even tried a long screwdriver but the angle is just off enough to not have any grab.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA
- Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County & South Coast CORSA Los Angeles California Chapters. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Getting there.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:29PM

You have probably spent more time on this than it takes to remove the alternator. Tools in hand it's a two-minute job. Less with air tools.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:32PM

This one is real small and vairy handy.

[www.sears.com]

This one is bigger but more choices.

[www.amazon.com]

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Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: June 12, 2018 06:43PM

Put your hex drive phillips bit into your 1/4" rachet wrench and have at it.

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'61 700 Lakewood 95 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.

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Re: Unreachable? Please say no.
Date: June 12, 2018 06:44PM

I sniffed this out at a local auto parts store. Vairy handy when you need it.

Yes I am a tool Junkie....


That's Phillips bit comes out and the quarter hex socket Drive goes in the ratchet. thumbs up


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Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: June 12, 2018 08:08PM

I love the last few suggestions. Will snoop for them myself.

I'd just rather not remove the alternator because I know that I would never get it back in quite the same way without professional help and maybe not even then (this is a Vair-guy-desert, and I know my limits). That thing isn't coming out until the bushings scream at me to do it.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA
- Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County & South Coast CORSA Los Angeles California Chapters. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Getting there.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: June 12, 2018 08:24PM

Short hex screw bit in a ratcheting wrench. [www.zoro.com]

Or simple manual right angle (or offset) screw driver I have a couple they are Philips on one side and slot head on the other. [www.walmart.com]

Might be easier to simply remove the generator this time and replace with proper hex head screw so next time is easy (normal).

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Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: June 12, 2018 08:31PM

Don't you have a 65 shop manual? Pg 6Y-10 gives R&R steps and a darn good pic. It is only 8 steps; 4 to remove and 4 to install. No special tools either.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

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1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
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Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: June 12, 2018 08:49PM

I have a 65 shop manual yes. It's a simple matter of last-resortivism, I guess. I know it's simple enough but I have screwed myself so many times on what other folks would consider simple. I'll do it if I have to, but I'll try 16 different other options first.

As I pointed out above, those Walmart snake screwdrivers are too thick. they bend with an inch of space and we need less than that.

thanks all for taking the time, many of these suggestions are giving me new avenues.

Eric C. Player
Porterville, CA
- National Member, CORSA
- Member: Central Coast CORSA
- Former Member: Vintage CORSA Orange County & South Coast CORSA Los Angeles California Chapters. Member, ISA (Int. Screenwriter's Assn.), SAG Eligible, and Producer's Guild Aspirant


* Then: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red/1965 Monza 110 Purple/
1967 Monza 140 Red/1966 500 110 Black/1965 Monza 110 Yellow
* Now: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo Project. Getting there.



"Chevrolet's Corvair was a maverick machine, a rear-engined renegade born out of spite and genius." -- Sports Car Graphic, August 1969

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Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: June 13, 2018 12:12AM

Like Davemotohead stated:

This may work better than a ratchet head

[www.craftsman.com]

Should find the correct hex head screw first.

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Posted by: Chris Lampe ()
Date: June 13, 2018 03:03AM

I like Phil Dally's suggestion from sears, that is about the lowest profile offset screwdriver will you will find.

Chris
Rowlett, Tx
NTCA - North Texas Corvair Association
CORSA
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Posted by: martyscarr ()
Date: June 13, 2018 06:25AM

I have used a small, very sharp cold chisel to remove screws and nuts in situations like that. It needs to be sharp enough to "bite" into the edge of the screw and then start tapping. After a bit you should be able to grasp it with pliers or some needle nose vice grips and back it out.

HTH

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Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: June 13, 2018 07:00AM

martyscarr Wrote:
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> I have used a small, very sharp cold chisel to
> remove screws and nuts in situations like that.
> It needs to be sharp enough to "bite" into the
> edge of the screw and then start tapping. After a
> bit you should be able to grasp it with pliers or
> some needle nose vice grips and back it out.
>
> HTH


While I have done the chisel method myself, this is two pieces of sheet metal and a speed nut. Its more likely to bend something before it brakes off. If it were mine I would have hit the screw head with a dremmel cut off wheel and replaced with a new screw. That would have taken less time than reading this thread

J.O.

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Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: June 13, 2018 07:34AM

Ok... I'll say it... NO!

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Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: June 13, 2018 12:16PM

Like Craig said. Grab the threads sticking out the bottom of the speed nut with a pair of needle nose vise grips and twist. Should come up enough for you to grab the head after that.

Marco
Sun Valley Ca 91352



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Posted by: curt ()
Date: June 13, 2018 01:23PM

A 90 degree phillips screw driver

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