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Tightening things up
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: May 14, 2018 09:27PM

Okay, I have 2 things that have been bothering me for a while.
I have just been "living with it" but am starting to get really tired of this condition and need to actually fix them!
What are they?
Drooping dropping accessories!
I have one sun visor, and the center mounted rear view mirror that just refuse to stay up!
Every couple miles I have to reach up and push them both back up.
The mirror has a screw to tighten it, but it seems to be as tight as it will go.
Anyone else ever have this problem, and if so, what did you do to fix it?
As for the sun visor, it is on the passenger side, so I have just kinda ignored it most of the time.
But I am getting tired of driving around with one up and one down.
It just looks tacky!
I have not been able to detect any way of tightening it up.
What is the proper way to solve this?

.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 14, 2018 09:36PM

Visor...Get a new plastic bushing from your favorite vendor!

Mirror... put a small BB / bearing in the hole..spacer of some kind..





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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: May 14, 2018 09:36PM

The mirror is a common problem, that can be easily resolved, by getting a screw that is slightly longer, and putting a nut on the other side of the mirror bracket. I used a stainless steel nut, and it is hardly noticeable from the outside, and totally unseen from the inside. As for the drooping sun visor, I wound up buying a NOS bracket to resolve my issue. Once again, a longer screw and nut will help to tighten the bracket, but sometimes you will need to file out the slot to get it tighter. Clarks sells a bushing, but I have had mixed results with the plastic bushing. The last time, I put some sandpaper scratches into the steel, so the shaft wouldn't turn, and the visor would work as intended. I am sure that others also have their favorite fixes for these common problems. Good luck, and let us know what worked best for you.

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: May 14, 2018 09:37PM

The ball mount for the center mount mirror is just a tight crimp when original. Over time - say 50 years - the crimp loosens up and the weight of the mirror makes it droop. (The same thing happens to the outside mirrors) If you want to try something, invert it - mirror down and put some type of acid, onto the ball - just a tiny bit, one drop? let in sink in and dry. maybe that will "gum-up" the works enough to freeze it in place, but still allow some heavy handed adjustment. On the sun visors, if the rod is staying in place and the visor is swiveling on it, I don't know. I am sure others will chime in, it's a common issue!

Seth Emerson

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: May 14, 2018 11:20PM

Sorry, I should have been a little more clear.
On the mirror, it is NOT the ball mount.
It is the screw that holds the ball mount to the arm.

Regarding the visor,
Yes Seth, the rod stays in place fine.
It is just the visor itself that want to flop down.
Any wind, or a couple bumps in the road, and down she goes!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: May 14, 2018 11:57PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> Sorry, I should have been a little more clear.
> On the mirror, it is NOT the ball mount.
> It is the screw that holds the ball mount to the
> arm.
>
> Regarding the visor,
> Yes Seth, the rod stays in place fine.
> It is just the visor itself that want to flop
> down.
> Any wind, or a couple bumps in the road, and down
> she goes!

You should be able to tighten the screw holding the mirror to the mount - if it is the correct screw.

Matt has already stated that you need a new plastic bushing for the sun visor.

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: SoBo ()
Date: May 15, 2018 12:07AM

Used to have the same issue with my driver's side visor. The previous owner kept a screwdriver under the seat to tighten it. I discovered after purchase that tightening did not last very long. Found that the plastic bushing was shredded by constant tightening of the screw. Replacing them did the trick...haven't had to tighten them since.

Dave
Baltimore, MD
65 Monza Convertible 110/4-Speed

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: NebraskaDave ()
Date: May 15, 2018 02:11AM

I’ve seen YouTube videos where guys remove the sunvisor from the bar, put a wrap of electrical tape around the bar, then put the visor back on. It would make sense I guess. I had a problem where the whole post moved in the bracket, so I bought the bushing. I couldn’t get it to fit, it was too snug. I could have saved $5 and just used the electrical tape for the same effect.

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Nebraska

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: May 15, 2018 04:08AM

Outside rear view mirrors are loose a lot. Some blue Loctite before putting it in position overnight seems to work pretty good. I have to scrunch down to the owner's position sometimes.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: May 15, 2018 04:50AM

Set the outside mirror where you want it then add one small drop of loctite 290 wicking, no need to remove the mirror.

J.O.

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: May 15, 2018 09:40AM

jjohnsonjo Wrote:
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> Set the outside mirror where you want it then add
> one small drop of loctite 290 wicking, no need to
> remove the mirror.

And Jim Brandberg

How do you guys come up outside rear view mirror?

He is talking about the inside rear view mirror...



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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: May 15, 2018 10:04AM

Thanks for all of the replies guys!
I will try out your suggestion tonight after work.

RobertC - yes, it has the correct, and factory original screw.
It just won't tighten down any more than it is.
And sadly, that just isn't enough.

.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: May 15, 2018 10:07AM

Mel:

Slide a thin washer up along side the mirror ball mount when it slides into the headliner mount. Then tighten the factory screw.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: May 16, 2018 05:31AM

I'm sorry I talked about the outside rear view mirror.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: May 16, 2018 06:00AM

JimBrandberg Wrote:
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> I'm sorry I talked about the outside rear view
> mirror.
>
> Jim Brandberg
> Isanti, MN
> CorvairRepair.com


Well Jim I made the mistake of reading your post and not the entire thread. Having said that, the loose outside mirror is a far more prevalent issue than the inside, so hopefully it helped folks with the outside issue as well.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: glivorsi ()
Date: May 16, 2018 10:46AM

I have the same visor problem in my vert. I replaced that plastic bushing and it still drops. I'll give the electrical tape trick a try.

Greg in Wildwood, MO (part of the St. Louis urban sprawl)

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Re: Tightening things up
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: May 17, 2018 11:13AM

THANKS GUYS!
I did the bushing in the visor and it helped.
As for the mirror, there is not enough room to slide a washer in there no mater how thin.
the ball mount has to be pushed in because the tolerances are so tight as it is.
I did some tweaking to the mount that attaches to the windshield header, and it is holding for now.
We will see what happens the first time it gets bumped.
Again THANKS for all of the input!

.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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