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1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: March 10, 2018 11:00AM

This car stays indoors but when I wash it the carpet gets wet. Right after I washed it last I parked it on a slope and water poured in from the front right heater outlet. Where are all the drains that I need to look at? There is a rectangular drain at the rear of the rocker but it seems clear.
Thanks!

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 10, 2018 11:09AM

IIIRC drain up front on 64's as well..

No need to pull kick panels like on an LM





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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: March 10, 2018 12:48PM

After washing check the shelf in the trunk for water, it can get in there also.
Is the drain hole at the bottom of the fender open?

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
63 Rampy
65 Greenbrier
63 Coup
64 Convertible

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: March 10, 2018 03:40PM

Trunk stays dry and drains at the back of the front fenders are open.

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 10, 2018 04:34PM

OK.... remove cowl vent....can be done with hood on.

Seam sealer across bottom of area is cracked.. btdt





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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:46PM

Missed the front heater outlet. Check the door seal, water will run down and come out around the outlet.
The rockers should be sealed on the convert as it is the air duct so no water should get in there.
You can try spraying small areas to see where it's getting in.

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
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65 Greenbrier
63 Coup
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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: March 10, 2018 10:20PM

I think those ideas are very possibly wrong. I just had water running out of the floor heater outlet on the resto I am doing. Unless there is a rust hole somewhere in the front wall of the cavity that the defroster hose runs in about the only way water can run down and out the outlet is from the pinch weld under the back corner of the windshield. I would try re-sealing the windshield first (proper sealant can be run under the inner and outer edges of the rubber gasket. If that failed I would remove the windshield and reinstall it (best to cut the current gasket for removal and install with a new gasket). New windshield gasket MUST have sealer well applied to the groove that sits on the pinch weld as well as in the glass groove and under the outer edge that seals to the body. While the windshield is out repair any holes found and be sure to seal even the slightest cracks in the pinch weld that the windshield gaskets sits on. The leak I had was because the glass man did not get continuous sealer in the gasket sealing the pinch weld and he forgot to seal the outer edge of the gasket to the body. Wash car and within a minute there was water running out of the heater outlet. I found this on the first wash after installing all the glass and weatherstrips in the car.There was a small (1/2") long gap in the pinch weld and since no windshield sealer sealed the area the water ran right in. Any gaps farther forward than around 4 inches forward of the rear lower windshield corner will run into the cowl or perhaps come out under the dash but can not get into the cavity that leads to the heater(unless of course there are significant rust holes in the area). I cut a brand new windshield gasket up to remove the new windshield, but, the glass cost almost $1100 shipped to us so I was not going to risk breaking it to save a gasket. Good luck.

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: dingo50 ()
Date: March 10, 2018 10:27PM

I've been working on the same problem....sealing leaks that is. The cowl vent was leaking as were the cowl vent screw holes, they get caulk also.

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: March 11, 2018 08:46AM

I would never take any of my collector cars out in the rain or to a car wash or use a garden hose to clean them.

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: March 11, 2018 10:55AM

Mel Wrote:
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> I would never take any of my collector cars out in
> the rain or to a car wash or use a garden hose to
> clean them.
I use car washes to clean the underneath after driving in snow with DD. My cars live inside unless I'm taking them somewhere, they get washed very seldom but occasionally do. Every Corvair show they go to they get rained on, it just seems that way.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: March 11, 2018 12:11PM

Thanks for the info Ted. I wouldn't have thought to look there.
I wouldn't own anything that was scared of a water hose.

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: March 11, 2018 12:26PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> I wouldn't own anything that was scared of a water
> hose.


I agree, some cars aren't worth saving

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 11, 2018 12:36PM

Joel, make sure to let us know what you finally do to stop this.





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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: March 11, 2018 03:14PM

Mel Wrote:
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> joelsplace Wrote:
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> > I wouldn't own anything that was scared of a
> water
> > hose.
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> I agree, some cars aren't worth saving

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65 Corsa Turbo Vert
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2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
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Re: 1964 Convertible wet carpet
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: March 11, 2018 04:06PM

I prefer a properly sealed car that does not leak and can run in an occasional downpour without ruining expensive interior cardboards and upholstery. First thing I do after I get the car where it should be dry is a good bath with a strong water hose. Any leaks found are fixed and then I can think about installing interior parts.

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