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Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: March 03, 2018 01:30PM

Anyone have a pic of a real Lucas Flame Thower as used on the Fitch Spints?
What is going rate?

Marco
Sun Valley Ca 91352

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: DOUG WARD ()
Date: March 03, 2018 01:58PM

Marco,
I found a couple of lights at the Pomona swap meet last year. I had flame throwers on my slalom 64 vert back in the 1970's. The lights I found recently are actually spot lights & fit right in to my 65 Corsa buckets. I don't have pics of them. They have crystal clear lenses, are 12 VDC & have a GREAT long range, BRIGHT beam. I think they were around $ 20.00 for each complete spot light. ( used, of course ) Doug Ward

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: March 03, 2018 02:17PM

Ok. Thanks. I was fairly certain they were clear. But do they have a reflector on them and do they any distinguishing marks on the back of them.

Marco
Sun Valley Ca 91352

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: March 03, 2018 02:24PM

This is reported as being the real thing...early style 50-60's







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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: March 03, 2018 03:32PM

From my collection...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
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Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: mwr ()
Date: March 03, 2018 04:28PM

The Lucas part number for the entire driving light assembly that these go to is 576 SLR. They are all over ebay, both original and repros.

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: March 03, 2018 06:34PM

For "Period Correct" authenticity, you can not beat the Lucas Flamethrower!
But, if you are just wanting a "spot-light" in the high-beam location, get one of the > 6" Off-Road Lights < from Harbor Freight.
The 55 watt H-3 bulb is quite superior to that little bulb in the Lucas light.
It will fit into our headlight rings just fine.
I had one on my car before I got my H.I.D. headlamps.
Of course you need to check your states lighting regs.
I was using it when I still lived in Oregon.
Oregon allows One (1) High-beam headlight to be replaced with a non-fluted clear lensed "spot-light" of no more than 55 watts.
It also must be focused on the middle of the road at no greater distance than 100 feet.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
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'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: March 03, 2018 07:13PM

I have the original Flamethrowers from my Sprint (I didn't sell them with the car). They're identical to the ones shown in Rick's picture.

When I removed the Flamethrowers, I installed aircraft landing lights and put the flamethowers in the boxes. Still have one of the boxes!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: March 03, 2018 08:58PM

Thanks for all the info and photos. Came across a fellow selling britsh parts and he had several NOS Lucas lamps. I asked him if he knew about thr Flame Throwers and he said those lights were them.
But they were fluted and did not have the the chrome reflector. I went back and checked his other lights as he had Lucas and other fog lights that I found interesting.
I foumd one lamp that matches the housing of the flame throwers shown i this thread but its 1 inch smaller in diameter, which tells me its a spot light lamp.

Marco
Sun Valley Ca 91352

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: yenkomark ()
Date: March 04, 2018 07:06AM

Many of you have seen photos of the Yenko Stinger at the Daytona 24 hrs in 1966..notice no aux lights on the front..Lucas Flamthrowers on the onboard light position.

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: March 04, 2018 07:20AM

Surprised nobody mentioned using a relay when installing the Lucas light. Does that not draw a lot more current then the stock high beam?

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: March 04, 2018 07:37AM

flat_six Wrote:
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> Surprised nobody mentioned using a relay when
> installing the Lucas light. Does that not draw a
> lot more current then the stock high beam?

Yes, they have a little more power (48w vs. 37w) but I never had a problem on high beam. When I switched to aircraft landing lights, those were too much and the headlight circuit breaker would trip and shut off the lights. That wasn't ever good.

I did the math on the flamethrowers and on high beam (2x48w + 2x37w) that comes to 13 amps, just under the 15 amp rating of the headlight circuit breaker.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: March 04, 2018 09:20AM

Lucas made many different light styles but the ones that John Fitch used for the Fitch Sprints were the ones that Craig and I posted.

If just adding 1 per the Sprint layout, no relay was needed at the time.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: March 04, 2018 07:28PM

I still have the ones from my 1963 Spyder that were installed back in '73. Problem is that the silvering on the reflector has deteriorated. This is a common problem with them, once they are exposed to dampness.

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Re: Lucas "Flame Thrower" Pic and Value?
Posted by: jdogden ()
Date: March 06, 2018 12:41PM

I think I purchased my Lucas Flamethrowers for my 1966 Corsa from J C Whitney in about 1968. I noticed right away how much better the high beam performed and loved the look on the car. Sold that Corsa in 1970 and finally found my 2nd Corsa late in 2017. Still working it over and need to source some flame throwers!

John

Greeley, CO

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