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Powerglide starting question
Posted by: EM-racer ()
Date: February 15, 2018 08:17AM

My Daughters 65 corvair starter will start in the Drive position, how is this fixed ? I don't think it should.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: February 15, 2018 08:25AM

There is a neutral safety switch associated with the PG shift lever.

You need to remove / partially remove the dash to get to it.

I do not know how to electrically test it.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: February 15, 2018 08:35AM

Instructions should be in the 65 Shop Manual.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: February 15, 2018 09:00AM

There are two sets of contacts (switch on dash lever), starter interlock and reverse lights. The terminals with the purple wires are the starter interlock (on most years). The switch contacts should show 0 (.1 to .3) ohms when in Neutral N and infinite ohms (OL on Fluke's) in the other positions.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: February 15, 2018 09:10AM

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: EM-racer ()
Date: February 15, 2018 02:34PM

Thanks I will do some checking and let you know what I find

Gene Barr
Eustis, Fl.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Date: February 15, 2018 03:48PM

Possible to also be the mechanical connection that operates the NSW (Neutral Safety Switch)

The switch closes the connection between the wires to allow the starter to engage.
If it is Closed during all switch movements, I'd suspect the lever that operates it.

A friend had an issue with their switch that failed "open" - it did not allow current to the starter when in Neutral.
That is a logical failure of the internal connection within the switch.
They couldn't start their car - miles from home. I explained how to jump the purple wire back in the engine bay to engage the starter while the ignition was On so they could drive it home.


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1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: EM-racer ()
Date: February 16, 2018 02:15PM

Well I went and looked and decided to leave it be. They will just have to remember that it WILL start in DRIVE position !!! The owner they got it from installed Air Conditioning and it looks factory and works like factory and under that dash is very close and I am not going to mess with it !!!

Gene Barr
Eustis, Fl.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: February 16, 2018 05:40PM

EM-racer Wrote:
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> and it looks factory and works like factory and under that dash is very
> close and I am not going to mess with it !!!
>
> Gene Barr
> Eustis, Fl.

The neutral safety switch is not "under" the dash. You cannot get to it from under the dash.

It is associated ("connected") with the PG shift lever.

You have to remove (not completely) the dash to get access to the switch. You can get access by removing the bracket that holds the steering column and pulling the dash towards you.

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: February 16, 2018 05:52PM

Gene hook up a relay off the brake lights so that they have to press the brake before it will crank, not exactly a neutral safety but kind of does the same thing. My 64 is the same way, I hope to give it some sort of safety before too much longer.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: February 16, 2018 06:36PM

EM-racer Wrote:
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> My Daughters 65 corvair starter will start in the
> Drive position.

Will it at least start in nuetral too, or just drive?

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: February 16, 2018 07:06PM

At least if the Powerglide car starts in drive, there will be a delay before it actually moves. Unlike a manual transmission car in gear, that with out stepping on the clutch, lurches forward or backwards the instant the key is turned. I wouldn't worry about it if it were my car. YMMV.

I'm such a rebel that when the automatic shift interlocks (step on brake before shifting out of park) start giving trouble, I just disconnect them. Hey, just like my pre- 1990 automatics!grinning smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: EM-racer ()
Date: February 17, 2018 08:09AM

Wagon Master: Yes it starts fine in nuetral,but also in ALL positions, I think the switch may have been removed or miss-adjusted while installing the air-conditioning system.
Gene

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Re: Powerglide starting question
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: February 17, 2018 01:23PM

I hate those brake interlocks. I remove all that stuff also. I used to remove/bypass the neutral safety switch also but haven't done that lately.

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