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NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: BILLG ()
Date: February 13, 2018 08:39AM

Can someone give me their latest thinking on installation of an electric fuel pump in my 64 Monza 110? I would like parts list, schematic and locations for install. I understand that the best emergency shut-off is the oil pressure sending unit. Comments?

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: February 13, 2018 08:47AM

Sent PM. Have done schematics with parts list for my Monza

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: February 13, 2018 08:59AM

I just ordered Carter 60504 pumps, bought three, planning to install 2 and have a spare, just a tad over $30 each on ebay. That's as far as I've gone.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: BILLG ()
Date: February 13, 2018 09:43AM

Don
Putting one in the 64? If so, where?

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: February 13, 2018 10:02AM

The 64 already has one, it's mounted to the frame just behind the tank if I remember correctly, has 8 or 10 inches of hose between there and the tank. It's been there probably 20 years. The 66 will get one as soon as I can get to it, other will go on my old Blazer. I don't want to gamble any longer that they won't fill my crankcase with gas plus it's so nice to turn the key, wait a few seconds and it cranks up even after sitting for several weeks.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: February 13, 2018 10:13AM

Are you a CORSA member? A couple of months ago, we published a complete write-up of all the alternatives, mounting locations, safety switches, etc. in the CORSA Communique. Did you see it?

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: red monza ()
Date: February 13, 2018 10:26AM

I have one on my 66...easier than the one I put on my 64 conv...both came from Rafee....you can actually call him and talk to him if needed...he is nice. HIs pumps are great and I think they are about 33.00 each or so. He has a how to on his website. I did put a switch under the dash on both to cut them off manually...you do not want it running when you are doing things that need the switch on. The pump has been on my 66 140/pg for a couple of years...and the 4 carbs have been opened many many times and no problems.

[www.corvair1.com]

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: BILLG ()
Date: February 13, 2018 10:39AM

Thank you everyone for the info and PM's. This CORVAIR PHORUM is great!

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 13, 2018 10:44AM

It's the members that make it great!





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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Date: February 13, 2018 11:08AM

"Latest Thinking" would probably involve an "in-tank" electric fuel pump. They have been around for decades - all modern cars/trucks have them.

Buy one and install on the end of a new sender unit.
Should remove and clean your gas tank, or get a new one. What condition is yours?
Installation is fairly easy, involves installing another thru-connector on the sender unit plate to run the +V to the pump.
Also install an impact switch, oil pressure switch and a three way switch in the drivers area that will give you 1)normal on with ignition switch 2)No Power to pump (useful when checking ignition issues) 3)Temporary Power to pump. (for priming the carburetors)

Here's a website with the basics of the sender unit installation

More details including schematic wiring details if desired...


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2018 11:09AM by 1966-Corsa-GT-180.

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: February 13, 2018 01:12PM

Here's a site that sells an insulated power connector for the pump:

[www.revolutionelectronics.com]

Better than destroying another sending unit.

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: coleslaw31 ()
Date: February 13, 2018 02:08PM

wv-geo Wrote:
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> Here's a site that sells an insulated power
> connector for the pump:
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> [www.revolutionelectronics.com]
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> Better than destroying another sending unit.

Thank you so much for the link! I have been trying to find something that is new rather than a old sending unit power connector.

I have a in-tank in my car, granted I have not driven the car yet. It is nice and quiet and pumps to the engine fast. Wasnt too bad to modify the sending unit to accept it either.

South Carolina Upstate



68 Monza convertible 140 4spd A/C (coming soon)
66 Corsa coupe 140 4spd

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: February 13, 2018 02:30PM

Some EM specific notes...Facet cube pumps are difficult to fit in the space on the rail behind the fuel tank on an EM (LMs are larger in this area). The cylinder shaped pumps (Airtex or Carter) will fit much better.

Nick
_______________________________________________________________________
1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: February 13, 2018 06:07PM

Some years ago I bought both the Airtex and Carter and the Carter fuel pump was louder during operation.

Make sure you get the correct fuel pressure - the low pressure number is for maximum flow so use the greater fuel pressure value.

Airtex number is E8016S 2.5-4.5PSI.

I've seen the wrong pump used that puts out 9PSI, excessive for the Corvair carburetor.

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: February 13, 2018 06:26PM

^^^That's the one you want.

Nick
_______________________________________________________________________
1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: February 13, 2018 06:31PM

I just installed the revolution electronics controller on my rampside this weekend. Pretty sweet. Turns the pump on for three seconds initially to fill the bowls, then only runs with tach signal. Works as advertised.

[www.revolutionelectronics.com]



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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: jsnstanley ()
Date: February 13, 2018 06:46PM

^^ Fuel Pump Relay 433-906-059 will do this ^^ for 20$.. A few seconds of prime on and actuates per tach signal. A “must have" safety with use of an electric pump.

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: February 13, 2018 07:08PM

Its probably worth the extra money to get the prewired revolution relay. Mike

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: February 13, 2018 07:30PM

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Craig
A couple of months ago, we published a complete write-up of all the alternatives, mounting locations, safety switches, etc. in the CORSA Communique.

It is a great article, with part numbers and pictures!

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: NEED LATEST THINKING ON ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS
Posted by: Paulsgt ()
Date: February 13, 2018 07:58PM

There are certainly many ways to Implement an electric fuel pump. The article in the recent Communique is awesome! For several years I ran a pump that was mounted near the gas tank. That was too noisy. I have had a pump mounted to the transmission crossmember for a long time. I did this to isolate the pump vibrations and have the wiring not have to run all the way to the front of the car. If I were to upgrade this setup, I would go with an in-tank setup.

Enjoy the Corvair!

Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer <-new title
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI



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