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Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Joe West ()
Date: January 21, 2018 06:57AM

Hi Gang,

I have completed a search of the forum and I cannot find what I am looking for. The interior paint on my corvair needs to be refinished and I am looking for the percentages of gloss used on the various interior painted surfaces.

My interior is black, so I don’t have any issues with color, but there appears to be a number of gloss percentages used on various painted parts on my interior. For example:

I see a flat color used on the trim around the dash pad (closest to the windshield), a semigloss color used on the a-pillars, and a full gloss used on the inside of the doors.

The other painted interior parts like heater vents and fresh air vents have been repainted so I have no idea what gloss percentages they should use. Radio mount? Dash above the instrument cluster? Steering wheel hub and column? Parking brake?

I would really appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction to determine the glossiness of the various paints used on the interior of the corvair.

Thanks so much gang!

Joe


1964 Spyder Convertible, Laurinburg North Carolina
Restoration Website: [www.corvairspyder.com]

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: January 21, 2018 07:31AM

Here is what I have for a reference. It indicates codes and also the paint gloss at different locations. I recall this info being hard to find back when I was searching for it...this is a universal GM reference printed by Ditzler. Ditzler was sold to PPG and from talking w/ my body guy and the paint store these paint codes have not cross-referenced to anything current for many years. So you basically have to guess and custom match with today's paints. Since your interior is black this won't be hard.

The left and right floor vents in the rocker panels are supposed to be painted a dark grey color. There is a thread on the forum discussing it...the closest color is a Mercedes interior trunk color called "Deep Dark Grey" in german of course. It is a satin finish. I actually have a spray can that I had mixed up...I can mail it to you if you want b/c it will for sure dry up long before I will ever need to use it again.

The rear heat vents under the rear seat are satin black. I actually bought an NOS set of them in original boxes. I ended up sandblasting and repainting them b/c the NOS paint was very poor quality...runs and drips in the paint, etc. I'd guess there was poor quality control on those back in the day.

Parking brake handle was satin black, as were the fresh air vents.







Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: January 21, 2018 07:40AM

One other note...in the "gloss colors" on the interior paint list above my understanding is that "gloss" on the interior meant about 60% gloss. Flat colors meant 0% gloss, however this might not look good so may have been more like 10% gloss. Adding flattener to the paint is pretty arbitrary so your paint guy will need to do some test panels for you to get what you are looking for.

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: January 21, 2018 07:51AM

The convertible rocker vent color is called Tiefdunkelgrau. It's a Mercedes color and the brand code I have is 301574 for it.

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Joe West ()
Date: January 21, 2018 08:04AM

Thanks so much Nick! I have forwarded this information to my painter.

Joe


1964 Spyder Convertible, Laurinburg North Carolina
Restoration Website: [www.corvairspyder.com]

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: January 21, 2018 10:54AM

Nickshu Wrote:
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> The convertible rocker vent color is called
> Tiefdunkelgrau. It's a Mercedes color and the
> brand code I have is 301574 for it.

There are 2 manufacturers of this specific paint, one is Sikens and the other is Spies Hecker. I had given this information to Cal Clark back in the 1980's, when he borrowed the front heater air grilles from my 1964 Spyder convertible for reproduction. I found the paint color by comparing it to the paint in the trunk of my MB 300SDL. At that time, you could purchase the paint ready made from the Mercedes Parts Department in quarts.

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: January 21, 2018 02:35PM

That's interesting stuff, not that this has anything to do with interior paint. I wanted a 2 part paint when I had mine done. There was no match for GM Cypress green in a 2 part. He shot the jams and under hood With Imron then scanned it. It came up as almost a dead ringer for BMW Iceland Green metallic. Nice thing is this color is still readily available. You really have to look hard to see where separation lines are to see any difference.

J.O.

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Re: Repainting Interior and I need the gloss percentages for the various painted surfaces
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 21, 2018 05:23PM

Good, Nick, that is what I would have posted for gloss reference!

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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