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Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 14, 2018 10:45AM

I was cleaning up my extra distributors getting them ready for Helen and found this with one of them. The distributor came out of a 1967 Monza Convertible I scrapped out a local recycle yard.

Look hard.

Can you see what I found with this 102 engine distributor? What would the engine operational affects be?

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 14, 2018 10:51AM

You mean the breaker plate being bent up because the screw is too long?


It locks the Cent. adv. mech.!





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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 14, 2018 11:21AM

Not seeing anything in the pic?





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1960 4dr sedan caveman car
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1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: January 14, 2018 11:29AM

I am only seeing what Matt points out and if that is the issue certainly engine performance would suffer. I think we have all seen many instances where
"mechanics" should not be working on cars.

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 14, 2018 11:29AM

Yep. The screw is too long. No vacuum advance with that set up, if they locked points at no advance position. Real dog of a Vair. Maybe that's why they parked it and it finally rusted away. No one could get running right because they didn't know what they were doing.

I am taking points plate off it for a 319 distributor and scrap this one. I can use the 319 on my Monza.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 14, 2018 11:41AM

locking the Vac advance plate only affects the timing at cruising speeds, the engine will run fine with a locked Vac advance plate as long as the initial timing is set correctly, Racers do not use a vac advance.





Email me at: Dave Motohead

1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 14, 2018 12:05PM

So it got poor gas mileage bad when it was on the road.

Oh well. Its life of doing any more engine control is over. Points plate being pulled for a 319 distributor. Rest will be scrapped. Maybe a oil pump drive tool maybe, but I just received one from Ken last Friday. Not much call for 102 parts.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: January 14, 2018 12:24PM

Change the points screw!

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: January 14, 2018 12:58PM

Maybe the points plate was loose and they thought that this would tighten it up?

RJ tools
Salem,Oregon

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 14, 2018 02:08PM

Don't need this distributor, Ken. Already pulled cap, rotor, dust cap, points plate and vacuum advance. It had a 230 VA on it. So there is not much left.

But now I have 3 good 319's fully setup with points, condenser, dust cap, VA, rotor and cap for 110 MT engines. Just happens to be what is in my Monza.

I will be taking a 140 MT, and a 1968 110 A.I.R distributor to Helen. These need to be bushed but they would be good cores. Maybe this 102 carcass might make its way on the trip to.

Now you no why I was messing with all these distributors today. Other than it is cold down here today. 32 this morning and only got to 48.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 14, 2018 08:41PM

1. I'm surprised the California guys didn't mention that the CARB (California Air Resources Board or some other regulation) for some time required the vacuum advance unit to be plugged to pass emissions. All those Corvairs still ran, just not perfect horsepower.

2. If the bushing feels good in that distributor, remove it also.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: January 14, 2018 08:45PM

Al - In your "Messing around" with the distributors, consider installing a bushing around the shaft/pin that the points plate swivels around. Also, maybe a ground strap. The updated plates are available from Clarks and probably other sources. Of course if your plates are new or show no wear at the swivel, go with them.

Seth Emerson

Check my new Performance Corvair Web site [www.perfvair.com]

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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 14, 2018 09:40PM

Seth:

Appreciate the info. The 319s I kept are in good shape. No movement in the bushing areas, so no repairs needed. The other 3 I am selling, they will be sold that way. New owners can install the bushings in them.

The way I see it 140 unit probably will sell. The 1968 110 A.I.R. unit might sell and the 102 unit probably is just a rolling paperweight that can be turned into a oil pump drive tool.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Have you seen this before in a distributor?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 14, 2018 10:16PM

Al, it's not the Engine the dist. came with.... it's the advance curve that sells them...except for restorers..





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