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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:02PM

Wires? 8mm i suppose? Silicone?

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:08PM

Never had a set of points fail.

Usually do a tune up at 12,000 miles.

Did lose a points plate on a trip once - not paying attention to maintenance.

Twice drove my Corsa until it stopped running - both times approx. 20,000 miles since last tune up - both times the distributor cap "carbon tracked". Replaced the cap and engine started right up (But, I did do a tune-up.).

Generally do not check dwell between tune ups - unless the engine "feels sluggish". Do put a thin film of grease on the distributor cam.

Parts (distributor) need to be in good condition.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:11PM

RobertC Wrote:
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> Never had a set of points fail.
>
> Usually do a tune up at 12,000 miles.
>
> Did lose a points plate on a trip once - not
> paying attention to maintenance.
>
> Twice drove my Corsa until it stopped running -
> both times approx. 20,000 miles since last tune up
> - both times the distributor cap "carbon tracked".
> Replaced the cap and engine started right up
> (But, I did do a tune-up.).
>
> Generally do not check dwell between tune ups -
> unless the engine "feels sluggish". Do put a
> thin film of grease on the distributor cam.
>
> Parts (distributor) need to be in good condition.


Excellent testimony, I've had similar experience many years ago, and will most likely be my approach since miles driven will be low from this point for me and my grocery-getter...



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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: ralph65corsa ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:14PM

I have two Corvairs. One has points and the other has a Pertronix 1.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:16PM

I have gravitated back to points after being on the side of the road in Tucumcari NM with Pertronix I in my Rampside. Luckily I had a points plate with me (but who wants to work on the side of the interstate?). My 64 Corvan with factory camper kit I have Pertronix but both my 69s with A I R still have points. A few others I have are with points but those distributors are easy to access.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:19PM

Edit to add coil info and Monza Big valve engine info.

1966 Monza 110 hp 4 spd = came with Points - Current engine Pertronix 2 and Flame Thrower II, when Big Valve engine is installed, it will get Ted Brown's EFI and electronic spark control - Keeper Vair.

1966 Corsa Turbo 180hp 4spd = came with points will be sold with points (non-running condition) - Coil will be a black one that came with it and will leave with it

1964 Greenbrier deluxe 80 hp PG = came with Pertronix I = will get points and a working black coil. It will be sold with operating engine / driver quality van.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: stitch ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:23PM

Seth's Distributor...thumbs upsmileys with beer

"If you can't fix it with a Hammer, you have an Electrical problem."
Stitch...
Schertz, Texas.
(Smallish town/burg 17 mi. NE of San Antonio)

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:24PM

Timothy Shortle Wrote:
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> .... A few others I have are
> with points but those distributors are easy to
> access.

The accessability of a Corvair engine bay is one of the reasons I'm going to drive another one. It's all there, the gen/alt, the diz, the single belt, the fan, the fuel pump, and carbs...and if it's too low to the ground to bend over just back up on the ramps...did I mention no water worries? of course it wouldn't hurt to be prepeared to heat the oil pan in a dead cold winter..

Once it gets running did I mention that you don't have to worry about carb ice?...unless ur running one of those center-mounted carbs



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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:33PM

John Smith Wrote:
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> Wires? 8mm i suppose? Silicone?

Seth Emerson (on this forum) sells (makes) ignition wires for the Corvair.

Other vendors may sell his wires as well as other wires.

Been using his wires since he started making them...

[www.perfvair.com]



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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:33PM

So far all responses have been good don't you think?..

I suppose the main thing is we all have confidence in whatever choice we make regarding what system we use and can keep adjusted or working to our own satisfaction. I think we are all winners, some will spend more than others, some will never change anything, but hopefully we can appreciate each experience and opinion as unique to each Corvair owner...

we are unique ..right?

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:43PM

John Smith Wrote:
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> so much for triggers, how about choice of
> coils?...what say you all?
>
> OEM DELCO? NOS?
======================================================

Stock 6 volt coil is fine for most...even aftermarket..

My Turbo has a Flamethrower and does the job..





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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:57PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> John Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so much for triggers, how about choice of
> > coils?...what say you all?
> >
> > OEM DELCO? NOS?
> ==================================================
> ====
>
> Stock 6 volt coil is fine for most...even
> aftermarket..
>
> My Turbo has a Flamethrower and does the job..

excellent...not much has changed since the 50's has it.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 05, 2018 06:00PM

Not when it comes to "Making" spark!





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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: January 05, 2018 06:10PM

Past surveys here indicate that about half the folks tend to dislike the Petronix. The other half never have a problem.

working with folks in my club I usually find a mis-match of Petronix parts and/or incorrectly wired up.

Petronix I with stock harness ballast and coil (or stock type coil). No problems.

Stay away from the Petronix II and the Flamethrower coils in general.

Keep in mind NO electronic ignition is going to compensate for a worn out distributor.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 05, 2018 06:17PM

Seth's wires! Nice specially made sets that fit using Taylor 8 mm wire. Available in many colors. Available from him or vendors as Silicone Wire Systems product.

I run points and stock coil in most of my Corvairs. One has a Pertronix (don't know which one, came in car) with stock coil.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 06:23PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> Seth's wires! Nice specially made sets that fit
> using Taylor 8 mm wire. Available in many colors.
> Available from him or vendors as Silicone Wire
> Systems product.
>
> I run points and stock coil in most of my
> Corvairs. One has a Pertronix (don't know which
> one, came in car) with stock coil.

great response..

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 05, 2018 06:54PM

I've got one with a Mallory distributor and MSD, one XR700, several Pertronix 1, and 3 with points but I have Pertronix units waiting to go in them. I do keep a points plate in the glove box on all the electronic ignition cars except the Mallory but I've never had to use them. Stock coils/resistors & no extra power to the Pertronix.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: red monza ()
Date: January 05, 2018 07:10PM

49 Chevy Fleetline, turned down 30K for it, built 283...POINTS
64 Corvair conv...in progress...will stay.... POINTS
66 Corvair 140/PG...8,000 miles on points so far...POINTS
68 Corvette L79, 327-350HP, 4 speed....since 73...POINTS

I just prefer something that I can fix right on the road in minutes...points are my favorite...one study showed they actually produced more HP than electronic.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 07:36PM

red monza Wrote:
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> 49 Chevy Fleetline, turned down 30K for it, built
> 283...POINTS
> 64 Corvair conv...in progress...will stay....
> POINTS
> 66 Corvair 140/PG...8,000 miles on points so
> far...POINTS
> 68 Corvette L79, 327-350HP, 4 speed....since
> 73...POINTS
>
> I just prefer something that I can fix right on
> the road in minutes...points are my favorite...one
> study showed they actually produced more HP than
> electronic.

Good response..we think alike....

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Ratt643 ()
Date: January 05, 2018 07:37PM

Using Hot Spark in the 64 and points in the 67. No problems with either one.


1964 Monza Coupe

Maryville, TN
U.S. 129 The"Tail Of The Dragon"

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