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Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 03:23PM

Hi there all, I have returned to these flat six motors partly for their simplicity.

I work on and maintain what I drive including my 80's carburated Bronco and my carburated Mercury powered boat.

I've been drawn to Corvairs again for their simplicity of service, operation, and maintenance drawing from my early years as a young dad working on what my family had to use daily.
In the 60's and 70's point ruled, and althogh in the 60's I myself installed some early "electroncic" ignitions, points were what made the world work generally.

I get the fact that distributors are less fussy to fiddle with with a "magnetic" pulse generator of some sort, that being said, I never really had any trouble with setting the points ever so often, and considering the miles I drive these days, I'm sure points maintenance would be really easy.

How many guys by percentage of users here use the stock ignition system as shipped on their "VAIR"?

Show of hands?

I have found in the past few years replacement parts from cross the water may be less than exciting for releiability. A set of points/condenser and a good coil, how has it been and what are the recommendations for a good woerking combination for a sweetspot/cost/reliabilty?

Sorry for the long post, back to you



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/05/2018 04:23PM by MattNall.

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 05, 2018 03:29PM

Ease of replacement... always points...

2 cars... one points... one Pet l both reliable...





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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 05, 2018 03:30PM

One stock distributor
&
one of Seth's

So, I guess I cancel myself out in the poll!
Statistically speaking that is.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 03:31PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Ease of replacement... always points...
>
> 2 cars... one points... one Pet l both
> reliable...


one and one...

good job, thanks for giving an opinion...

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 03:32PM

still even....

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:08PM

Stock / Points - 2 Corvairs

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:13PM

Pertronix...in too many to count.

Performance far out weighs any negatives.

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:20PM

8 street ready operational corvairs here...
3 have the Crane/Allison xr700
4 have points
1 pertronix

I like points usually for ease and reliability. For daily use though I like the crane. I just sold one car that had the crane as well. I haven't tried one of Seth's distributors yet, but intend too.

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Re: Survey of ignition tye used.
Posted by: jamesolefjensen ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:22PM

Pertronix. The cheaper one (Pertronix I?).

I burnt a set of points once. I was on a rally over a long weekend. Pulled over to help my buddy fix his 914 shift linkage in the middle of nowhere. An hour later, we went to take off and I had no go. Finally figured out it was the points. They must have ended up closed when I parked and the engine heat soaked them and voila, toast. (At least that was the theory we came up with while drinking beer later that evening). The spare set of points in the trunk saved the day.

After that, I switched to Pertronix. I do keep a spare Pertronix module in the trunk…along with a whole points set up.

James
65 Corsa

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:32PM

great input so far...While online today, I have been reading on this topic with a search of "points"..it seems there are many opinions..probably all valid for each one's experience..

i haven't seen any "crank-trigger installs yet"..but some chat..it's all good..

a general consensus so far..a set of points good to have on hand?...or maybe extra pert unit?

I am familiar with HEI modules as well..and evidently Seth's unit is good..
any recommends on brands of points/condenser?...in my limited experience a good known condensor should NOT be replaced?..

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:33PM

Several topics here on EDIS usually Ford or Buick units





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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:34PM

For sure a complete points plate in the glovebox...in case of EMP.

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:41PM

Pertronix 1 in my '65, incorrectly wired to the coil and runs great.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:45PM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> For sure a complete points plate in the
> glovebox...in case of EMP.


I get it, I keep a points diz/combo for my 300-6 Ford..

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:47PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Several topics here on EDIS usually Ford or
> Buick units


duelly noted..although to me seem to be overkill for a simple Corvair motor..to each his own right?

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: David Malcolm ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:47PM

Had a Crane in my 1969 when I bought it--runs great, no problems.

David Malcolm
1969 Monza PG Coupe
NJ near the Meadowlands

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:50PM

I have 2 with points and one with the Chrysler reluctor driving an MSD and the spare engine has Seth's distributor with just the electronic trigger for the MSD. I have another with the full Chrysler ignition system. I have run the Crane/Allison system and I prefer that over the other point replacement system.

I will not use Pertronics.

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:54PM

Here are my 3 vehicles. None running right now, but the plans for their spark generation is already made.

1966 Monza 110 hp 4 spd = came with Points - Will get Ted Brown's EFI and electronic spark control Keeper Vair.

1966 Corsa Turbo 180hp 4spd = came with points will be sold with points (non-running condition)

1964 Greenbrier deluxe 80 hp PG = came with Pertronix I = will get points and be sold with operating engine / driver quality van

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2018 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ Z71 Centennial Edition
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 04:59PM

vairmech Wrote:
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> I have 2 with points and one with the Chrysler
> reluctor driving an MSD and the spare engine has
> Seth's distributor with just the electronic
> trigger for the MSD. I have another with the full
> Chrysler ignition system. I have run the
> Crane/Allison system and I prefer that over the
> other point replacement system.
>
> I will not use Pertronics.

This is an interesting approach. I'ma familiar with the reluctor trigger and box of choice solution. Very interesting.

Waht I am enjoying is the varied way everyone seems to approach a common problem...keeping these engines lit up when some are not used all that often perhaps..condesation and corrosion being our worst enemy for electric things unlesss we all have heated storage..

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Re: Survey of ignition type used?
Posted by: John Smith ()
Date: January 05, 2018 05:01PM

so much for triggers, how about choice of coils?...what say you all?

OEM DELCO? NOS?

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