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Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: SoloCP ()
Date: December 24, 2017 05:23PM

Wondering what the value of new 3.1 Liter. Motor was assembled by Levair Performance. Has Triple Webers, Motor has not been ran. Was a Spare built for the Unsafe Corvair. Might be selling to finance another project.

Don
AKA (Polyvairist)
Kansas City
HACOA
Broken Halo Corvair Garage.
61 Lakewood
62 Monza aka (Flicka)
62 Rampside
63 700 Sedan 3 Speed
64 Spyder Coupe (Bill Pierson Car)
64 Monza Convertible,140/4 Speed,Electric Heat,Kelsey Hayes Wheels
64 Spyder Blown, (Dave Bolduc Car)
65 Corsa 3.1 Liter Triple Weber (aka Unsafe)
66 Corvair V8 SuperVair (Created by Archibald Evans)
66 Avenger, Corvair Turbo, Fuel Injected, Air to Water intercool 140. (Michael Mann Car)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2017 05:27PM by SoloCP.

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 24, 2017 08:51PM

Since no one has replied...


1 We know it will cost $8 k in parts and machine work to build this

2 It will take most likely Two [2] years to build it...

And it is assembled by someone of reputation[successful racer with these engines] $$$$

My best estimate of what it MIGHT sell for... $7500





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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: December 24, 2017 09:27PM

I'd love an engine like that!

Crawford Rose

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: December 25, 2017 05:29AM

With Webers, 10 grand easy to build.

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: 65CrownV8 ()
Date: December 25, 2017 05:39AM

$ 3K for the Webers alone. I'm thinking value is $ 10K, like Mike says, but a very limited market.

George Jones - East Orlando, FL
'65 Monza V8 Convertible - 355/4-spd Posi - TT015
'66 Monza Coupe - 95/PG
'67 Monza Coupe 140/4-spd/Posi, A/C
COrvaiR Society of America (CORSA), Central Florida Corvair Club, Tidewater Corvair Club, V8 Registry

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: December 25, 2017 06:17AM

Yea, Ive got 10 grand in my 2.7 with Rochesters, Arias Pistons $1000.00, Pauter Rods $1500. Kent Ford Cylinder ported heads with Mike McCrae exhaust tubes with stainless valves,titanium retainers, Crane springs,$4500. Big bore carbs flow bench built $1500,Sedman cam gear and custon Cam $700,Johnson slow bleed lifters,Roller Rockers,Custom Push Rods,stud girdle WOW i better stop before my wife sees this !!!

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: December 25, 2017 06:55AM

If you really want to know... list it on Ebay with a hidden reserve price.
10k for an engine like that is a great price, especially if it can be had
NOW instead of waiting for 2 years. I had 5500 into mine and gave up. It was
only half way finished!

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Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
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engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car



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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: Max Roeder ()
Date: December 25, 2017 06:15PM

If all technical data for engine build is not available I would have to think twice. With an engine of this cost/ complexity there should be many pages of documented test results. Who did what to what should be preserved somewhere for reference. Flow bench results, bob weight calculations and results of final crank balance, etc. All internal component origins and specs. What valve seat material was used, valves, springs, retainers, etc, etc. With all due respect to the engine itself, if this information has not been recorded I would feel like I was buying a pig in a poke.

I love the Italian phrase, comprare a scatola chiusa, (to buy in a sealed box).

[en.wikipedia.org]

Without the information, I'd walk away.

PS be warned: "When my love swears that she is made of truth I do believe her, though I know she lies" Shakespeare's Sonnet 138.

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: December 25, 2017 07:43PM

Like V8Vair Mike says, you might have to stop counting before the wife finds out.
I don't have a monetary monitor myself, but I did build one in the early 1990's for a customer, and it was over 10K back then.
It had a custom 6 tube runner with a new 390 Holley, and ran like stink in a heavy 4 passenger off road rail buggy.
Stayed with other buggies that had documented 250 FWHP engines...
What Mike didn't say is that it takes 3 or more trial assemblies to get everything correct.
I have 3.0L Weber race engine underway at the moment, and I would set the retail value at close to $14,000.
All the parts V8VAIR Mike lists, and much MORE.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: chris ()
Date: December 25, 2017 09:12PM

caroseiii Wrote:
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> I'd love an engine like that!
>
> Crawford Rose

x2!

'65 Monza 4 door
4 speed
110hp
Gardner, KS

Heart of America Corvair Owners Association

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 25, 2017 09:22PM

chris Wrote:
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> caroseiii Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'd love an engine like that!
> >
> > Crawford Rose
>
> x2!


X10
at this point my coupe would love to just have an engine that runs!smiling bouncing smiley

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: SoloCP ()
Date: December 26, 2017 06:49AM

I have a ton of paper work I suspect with a little digging I could get the specs on the engine or I could get a hold of Michael and or Kevin to get the info.

Don
AKA (Polyvairist)
Kansas City
HACOA
Broken Halo Corvair Garage.
61 Lakewood
62 Monza aka (Flicka)
62 Rampside
63 700 Sedan 3 Speed
64 Spyder Coupe (Bill Pierson Car)
64 Monza Convertible,140/4 Speed,Electric Heat,Kelsey Hayes Wheels
64 Spyder Blown, (Dave Bolduc Car)
65 Corsa 3.1 Liter Triple Weber (aka Unsafe)
66 Corvair V8 SuperVair (Created by Archibald Evans)
66 Avenger, Corvair Turbo, Fuel Injected, Air to Water intercool 140. (Michael Mann Car)

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: December 26, 2017 10:20AM

I might be interested if the price does not get too high. An unknown engine that has never run does come with some risk despite the builders good reputation. Can't be sure what happened to it after it left their shop. Not being critical and I certainly don't mean any insult. Moisture, dust, varmints can make a perfect engine less so.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: "UNSAFE" ()
Date: December 26, 2017 11:47AM

That was the spare motor I had built for the UNSAFE Monza .

It has all of the good parts that the motor in the car had plus extra porting.

Titanium retainers roller rockers with girdles. aftermarket rods and gapless rings . Weber 40s.deep pan with baffle . Etc Etc Etc .

Built by Michael at Levair Performance and is new.

"UNSAFE"
Kevin Willson
65 Monza
Juneau. Alaska

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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: texas yenko dude ()
Date: December 26, 2017 12:07PM

It's not hard to spend 12-15k on a motor like this. I just did that + more last winter. But, with that being said, DYNO sheets on it would go a long way on the sale. Even my backup motor was installed, broken in on the DYNO and I have sheets.

Texas YENKO Dude
YS-070
YS-199
YS-320
Southeast of Disorder


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Re: Value of 3.1 Liter
Posted by: Max Roeder ()
Date: December 26, 2017 04:49PM

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