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a new twist on our cars
Posted by: 2ragtops ()
Date: December 21, 2017 04:56PM

[www.youtube.com]

anybody know who owns it.

Bob Bauer

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1966 Monza Convert 140 P/G with A/C, plastic wheel with tele-column am-fm posi-traction
1966 Corsa Convert 180 wood wheel tele-column am-fm sport steering posi-traction
1965 Corsa Coupe Crown V8 mounted mid-body temporarily red lined for repair
House Springs, Missouri

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 21, 2017 05:02PM

Posted in 2014 [corvaircenter.com]


But not one reply!





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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 21, 2017 07:35PM

Those two guys have way too much time on their hands.

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 21, 2017 10:41PM

Too much time, and not enough facts.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 22, 2017 05:30AM

Although I typically don't share embarrassing vehicle purchases with the general public...

I had an '85 2m4
$130 payment.
$225 insurance premium.
It was a pile of crap.
Smoke began to appear from behind the dash @ 64k miles.
A dog of a "sports car".

By far,the worst vehicle I've ever had.

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: December 22, 2017 07:02AM

Too bad on the mid engine car being so bad. I would love to have a great American mid engine sports car. A mid engine version of the Corvair comes to mind as a really fun car. The Corvair engine can be reversed but what then happens to the rest of the drivetrain? I suppose a Porsche transaxle could be used. Just a fun idea. I agree about GM holding the other marks back in favor of the Corvette. That's really too bad.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 22, 2017 08:29AM

I remember when I worked for a Nor Cal car dealer back in the early 90's.
Fieros's were one car that would not even go out on to the lot.
If someone traded one in, it went straight to the wholesaler yard.
When I questioned one of the service techs about it, he told me that those composite bodies were prone to cracking and they did not want to have to deal with anything related to the trouble that could involve.

I have driven the Fiero, and the MR2. Between those two, I would rather have the Toyota, any day!
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Bob, I have heard stories of people putting the Corvair engine in the back-seat like the V-8 conversion, and keeping the Corvair drive-train, but I personally do not know why you would go to that much effort and not do a full Crown conversion.
"WoW! I could've had a V-8!"

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: December 22, 2017 09:29AM

I had a 86 Fiero, 4cyl and automatic. It was a fun car and I would have bought a new one if they continued to make them.
But it's not a good comparison with the Corvair. The Fiero came with compact spare tire. But if you mounted it, the only place to put the flat tire was on the passenger seat or that person's lap. The wheel and tire would not fit anywhere else. The Fiero is also a true two seater car. Extremely limited luggage space. So this car is owned for a specific market. And that's just fine.
My Fiero was a really fun car to own and drive. It reminded me of my friends Lotus Europa, but with 1980's technology.

The Corvair.. I don't need to describe here. But it beats the Fiero with cult following and uniqueness for a vintage American car.

Bottom line if I had to pick one. Yes the Corvair would be hands down the winner. A lot easier to repair and maintain. Especially for an odd ball like me!

As far as this video. I enjoyed it.

Corventure Dave

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: jmaechtlen ()
Date: December 22, 2017 09:45AM

Yeah, two very different cars. The video doesn't do much for me, too much BS and too little actual info. The '86 Fieros are prettier than the earlies, to my eye.
GM would never let anything outshine the Corvette, so the Fiero never got anything very hi-po.

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 22, 2017 10:32AM

To ad an additional bit of Fiero insight.
I remember a Hot Rod article about a V-8 swap that was done into one, and they noted that Pontiac had anticipated further development of the Fiero when it was initially designed, and specifically engineered the transaxle to be able to handle the power of a V-8 right from the start.
Therefore the V-8 swap did not require a lot of re-engineering to achieve a finished product.
Unfortunately, That whole GM and the Corvette issue got in the way.

Hmmm, kinda like modern thinking, lets hold back the U.S. rather than expect the rest of the world to step up to our standards.eye rolling smiley
And with that, I will step out of here.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 22, 2017 11:09AM

Never Fear.... many v8 Fieros out there!Russ in Grants Pass has 2!! one Northstar and the other SBC..





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Re: a new twist on our cars
Posted by: glivorsi ()
Date: December 22, 2017 01:49PM

My older brother had an '84 Fiero SE with the performance handling package, 4 cylinder and 4-speed stick. It was a blast to drive and ride in. I remember the clutch being very heavy though. The handling was absolutely incredible. He did have a lot of reliability issues with it- electrical gremlins and then it started having significant blowby with oil accumulation in the air filter at only 90,000 miles. He ended up trading it in. A good friend of mine had an '85 or '86 with the V6 and manual trans. He had great luck with the car and went well over 100k with no issues.

Greg in Wildwood, MO (part of the St. Louis urban sprawl)

1965 Monza Vert 110PG, Crocus Yellow with black interior and top

2006 Mazdaspeed 6
1997 Honda CBR1100XX

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