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LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: dbyram ()
Date: December 21, 2017 10:07AM

I am having trouble finding an after market inner tie rod for my 66 Monza.
Pretty much every brand online (Moog, OER, Proforged)lists an outer rod but none seem to have an inner. Both Clark's and CU have kits available (inner, outer, sleeve) but those seem to be priced a bit high. Are inner and outer different or are all four universal? Any info would be appreciated.

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: thewolfe ()
Date: December 21, 2017 10:13AM

They are different. One has left hand threads, the other has right hand threads. Don't remember which is which though.

Nate Wolfe
Portland OR
65 Corsa 180

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: December 21, 2017 10:34AM

Nate's correct but it doesn't matter which is which. As long as one of each, it will adjust.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 21, 2017 07:21PM

Priced high? ~$35 for a tie rod end. How much would it take for you to reproduce the part yourself?

I just checked Auto Zone online for late model Buick tie rod ends, and they are running $35 to $80, so what's the beef?

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: dbyram ()
Date: December 22, 2017 08:59AM

Frank- I was well aware of pricing before I posted. I have no problem paying a fair price when I know what I am getting. But Clark's and CU have virtually no description on their tie rod kits to distinguish them from a cheap no name product that you can order of Amazon or ebay for $100. Kits from both Clarks and CU (2 inner, 2 outer, sleeves) end up to be $180 plus freight. I am willing to spend that and more on a brand like Moog or for a product I have a little knowledge on. But as I mentioned there is nothing distinguishing their product. Forgive me for reaching out to this forum and wanting to make sure I put the best product at the most economical price I can on my vehicle. Your response added nothing insightful or informative to my post, so why even respond? Maybe that's your nature? If so I bet your a joy in person.

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 22, 2017 10:16AM

Frank is a highly respected and long-time member of this forum and made a very valid point.
It was not a personal attack, so quit attacking him!
But then again, what else should we expect from a person who has been a member for 2 years, and only contributed to the forum 2 posts in that entire time. eye rolling smiley
Talk about a persons nature, defensive and vicious right out of the gate?
Talk about a joy to be around!
Maybe it is best if you just stay hidden in the shadows ! ! !

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 22, 2017 11:20AM

d, I guess you have not been around long enough to know Clark's reputation.

Sure they sometimes have quality issues, but you can call and talk to them about it and usually get it resolved to your satisfaction. I have been a customer since the late 70s.

Lon has announced his retirement January 1st. Another loss of reproduced parts.

OPGI has announced a Corvair catalog. Now, they are the unknown seller at this time, same as the internet people you have been shopping.

If you had asked about Clark's or Lon's quality in your original question, my reply would have been different. All I see in your question is why does Cal and Lon charge so much for their tie rod ends. Go back and read your original post.

The thread issue had already been answered. It is a "turnbuckle".

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Date: December 22, 2017 01:17PM

.......and some people wonder why I'm retiring from all this.

Lon Wall

Fireman Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad #25 #2
OCSRR.com
Fireman Sumpter Valley Railroad #3 and #19
svry.com
www.pacificmodelloggerscongress.com

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: December 22, 2017 02:00PM

dbyram Wrote:
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> I am having trouble finding an after market inner
> tie rod for my 66 Monza.
> Pretty much every brand online (Moog, OER,
> Proforged)lists an outer rod but none seem to have
> an inner.

There is a reason for this. It probably is because the inner tie rod is unique to the Corvair - and no one makes them anymore.

Someone (Clark's or ???) had to put up the money and find a supplier/ manufacturer to make the LM Corvair inner tie rod.

Looked at the LM Corvair outer tie rod - probably the only reason an aftermarket version is available is because it also fits 67 Camaro / Firebird.

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: December 24, 2017 12:43PM

I have a set of NOrS Moog in the garage- 2 inners and 2 outers.

I also have a set of Clarks inners and outers waiting to go on the race car. I'll have to compare the two. I have no problem putting the Clarks ones on my cars.

Eric P

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: December 24, 2017 12:49PM

Just went out an compared. The Clarks units definitely have more material at the intersection of the threaded portion of the forging, and the 'socket'. They are also heavier.


Eric P

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Murphy ()
Date: December 24, 2017 01:49PM

You guys really know how to make someone feel welcome. Nothing like jumping on his back because he wants to spend his money prudently.
I spend plenty supporting our Vendors, but I always shop price.Nothing wrong with that.

If you want to keep our hobby alive, you best welcome new people. Jumping on their shit because they want to save money is mean, knocking down new Corvair people down is stupid.

Merry Christmas Gents

65 Monza Coupe
61 500 Coupe-W100181
Earliest '61?

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 24, 2017 04:12PM

OP had 2 posts in 2 years. If he had been an active forum member, his question would not have been asked as he would have known the reputation of our current vendors.

So he is not a new member, but a shotgun member. Shoots a blast when needed.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2018 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ Z71 Centennial Edition
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 24, 2017 04:16PM

Shopping price is a good thing. thumbs up

d had already shopped and knew what the going price for available parts was. He did say they were priced high. I spoke up, because to me, a $35 tie rod end is not priced high compared to $38 for the Moog at Jegs.

[www.jegs.com]


I read his post as an insult to our vendors. He did not ask about quality in his first post. He said he could not find an aftermarket inner tie rod (end). But he already had found them, from two vendors! His complaint was price.

I encourage new people all the time. But if they come on and ask their first question with a chip on their shoulder, it will take a while to warm to them!grinning smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 24, 2017 07:58PM

d, keep posting. You will not find a better place to get your Corvair questions answered. Despite my bark, I mean no harm! Lots of talent here.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: LM Inner and Outer Tie Rods
Posted by: Murphy ()
Date: December 24, 2017 08:36PM

Lane66m Wrote:
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> OP had 2 posts in 2 years. If he had been an
> active forum member, his question would not have
> been asked as he would have known the reputation
> of our current vendors.
>
> So he is not a new member, but a shotgun member.
> Shoots a blast when needed.

Right on BiG Al. I think he understands you learn more with your ears open and your mouth shut.

I didn't realize the number of posts you have makes you a superior member.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

65 Monza Coupe
61 500 Coupe-W100181
Earliest '61?

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