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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 02:49PM

No such thing as a "recall" as we know it today.... back in the 60's





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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 11, 2017 04:13PM

30 seconds or 30 feet, Generous Motors

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 11, 2017 04:16PM

The OO and I remained close friends many years after I bought the car from him. I never received one of those letters and I'm sure he would have given it to me if he received one.

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69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: December 12, 2017 09:01AM

Joelsplace, requesting documentation.

My information was based on a call to KIDDE. Their tech explained that a typical home carbon monoxide detector, meeting UL2034 standards, responds to low levels of CO in tens of minutes/hours vs. a specific auto/truck digital portable type CO which respond to real time low levels of CO in seconds.

Further he stated, "carbon monoxide detectors are not a simple alarm level like smoke detectors but are a time function. At lower CO levels (100 PPM) the detector will not sound an alarm for many tens of minutes, but at higher levels (400PPM) the alarm will sound within a few minutes. This time delay mimics the human body's absorption of CO and designed to prevent false alarms due to relatively common sources of carbon monoxide such as cigarettes."

I may have misinterpreted that CO detectors (home vs. auto) read PPM differently, rather than the more critical time delay function of a home unit that may mean the difference in death at lower levels of CO in a smaller environment. Obviously the digital read out type would provide real time info on the go before something bad happens.

Unfortunately the average auto/truck I have found is many hundreds of $$ more than your home based unit and I drive my Corsa infrequently in winter months.

If you find an affordable digital car/truck detector please post it.

Jimc
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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 12, 2017 01:16PM

Here is one even the most frugal Vair owner can afford, should get you through a winter.

[www.pilotshop.com]

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65 Corsa Turbo Vert
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69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 12, 2017 01:20PM

Oooops cheaper



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79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 12, 2017 01:29PM

First one is cheaper!! lasts 12 months!

$2.99 only lasts 3 mths!





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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 12, 2017 01:44PM

good catch, missed that

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65 Corsa Turbo Vert
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69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: December 12, 2017 03:26PM

thumper477 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Read the "defect notification" letter from GM
> carefully.No repairs are provided for free.Any
> work done is at the expense of the owner.Big bunch
> of bull s--t if you ask me.True recalls are
> performed at the car maufacturers expense for
> parts and labor.

The legal system in reference to vehicles / liability has changed a lot over the past 45 years.

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: Lalkie ()
Date: December 12, 2017 03:51PM

I thought I was getting exhaust fumes in my 65 corsa convertible and cleaned the PCV system. The small orifice was plugged. This seemed to help. I also purchased a CO2 detector card from my pilot. I put it directly on the defroster vent and it does not show any CO2. The heater works great and quickly in Colorado. Larry

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: December 15, 2017 07:18AM

Thanks J.O. for the reference and cheap too. I ordered two from Pilotshop.

I also put one in my old S10.

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: December 15, 2017 08:42AM

This is an interesting discussion but PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN TELLING "WHAT GAS" WE ARE CONCERNED WITH! eye popping smiley

The problem with any "Air Cooled Engine" (Corvair, Airplane, VW, etc.) is the development of CARBON MONOXIDE (CO). hot smiley

IT IS NOT CARBON DIOXIDE (CO2)!!! sad smiley

Places sell detectors for both types of gases, so make sure you are getting the right one for your car (Carbon Monoxide). The disposable ones sold for private aircraft have been around for years and work well. They are 'one shot' devices that change color to indicate the presence of CO!

I have used these on a couple of past Corvairs and have driven Corvairs for years without detectors. No problems yet. eye rolling smiley

Dale cool smiley

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: December 15, 2017 08:43AM

Lalkie,
If a CO2 detector isn't showing any then it isn't working. CO2 is always present.
CO is the dangerous gas we are talking about.

I was typing too slow and Dale beat me to it....



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2017 08:47AM by joelsplace.

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Re: Its winter, does your heater smell or give you headaches
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: December 15, 2017 09:49AM

Reply to Oldgmguy,

I confirmed with the seller, Pilot Shop, that the ASA CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR Part # 13-05755, is NOT a one shot ()use only device. The supplier and manufacturer replied that it is reusable but should be replaced within a year after opening and removal from the original package.

Pilot Shop replied, "Warning of the presence of CO (carbon monoxide) in the cockpit, the CO Detector spot will turn gray/black when CO is in the air. The spot on the detector returns to normal color after it is exposed to fresh air and is ready for multiple readings.

The CO detection device, with the adhesive back, stick it on the panel or dash for a semi-permanent installation, or wear it on an ID badge or on a lanyard. Unopened CO-Detectors have a shelf life of 3 years, indicated by the expiration date on the package. Once removed from the packaging, the CO-Detector will last for 12 months."

"CAUTION: Detector will be damaged by the presence of halogens (iodine, chlorine, bromine), ammoniac and nitrous gases. Do not use near diesel engines. Harsh direct sunlight will tend to bleach out indicator spot and shorten useful life."

A small investment at $4.45 each, plus shipping and no batteries.

The CO dot should not be exposed to direct sunlight, so bottom of dash near the heater outlet is probably a good place.

Good Luck.

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