Just so EVERYBODY is clear on the geography of California, and winters,
What most of the country understands about California from the media is FALSE ! ! !

Northern California does not start at the top of the Grapevine (Gorman) as most would have you believe!
San Francisco and Sacramento are NOT in Northern California either ! ! !

Due to its rather long & tall nature, California is broken into 3 equal parts.
Northern(N)
Central(C)
and
Southern(S)

Northern CA. begins around Point Arena, Clear Lake, and the Bottom of Lake Tahoe.

Central CA. reaches down to about Big Sur, Visalia, Furnace Creek.

Southern CA. goes from there, on down to Tijuana.


I know that many CA. residents like to "think" that they are part of their idealised region of the state, but before you protest this, just divide any CA. Map into thirds and see what reality shows you.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

And Reno Nevada is west of LA and SD, just say,n

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa

I'm back to driving with the air conditioner on. I work for the power company and we're shutting the plants down and putting them on stand-by, cheaper to buy power than make it right now, been there 33 years now and this is the second time I've seen the plants shutting down at Christmas.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

moomba32 Wrote:
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> I'm back to driving with the air conditioner on. I
> work for the power company and we're shutting the
> plants down and putting them on stand-by, cheaper
> to buy power than make it right now, been there 33
> years now and this is the second time I've seen
> the plants shutting down at Christmas.

Don is that due to low natural gas prices or usage(heat pumps)?




The Corvair, Keeping Nader Notorious


Will
Northern California

LED Christmas lights

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa

Most here in the south use heat pumps so load is down whenever it's warmer than normal in the winter.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

Single digits/teens in he mornings. Haven't been above 32 in a while. 3-4 inches of snow yesterday/last night. Bring on the snow!!!!!

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Ronnie
Southern Maine.
www.dirigocorvairs.net
66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.
65 Monza Convertible, 110, PG.




It doesn't leak, it's marking it's territory.

A mirror is a reflection of the miles travelled.

From mid 30s last week to high 50s this week in the mornings. Now I have a severe case of Savannah Crud (congestion).

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp

I see a lot of massive solar panel use....the Biltmore HOuse, a very famous place where I live built in the 1800's, has a field that has solar as far as you can see placed where no one would ever see or go being on the Estate but visible from the Interstate.

So, in the south, I would say supply/demand curve for coal fired plants is being altered...more solars/less coal....also noticed more homes now have solar...hope that trend continues even more aggressively.

I think you could cover the country in solar panels and still not have enough and then what do you do at night. They have some value but a long way from replacing power plants, just think of all the batteries.
Back to the weather, I was attacked by insects last night, flying bugs.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

This morning, we just had our 2nd. sea-level snow here, and it is not even officially "Winter" yet!
Boy this "Global Warming" is killing me!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

moomba32 Wrote:
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> I think you could cover the country in solar
> panels and still not have enough and then what do
> you do at night. They have some value but a long
> way from replacing power plants, just think of
> all the batteries.
> Back to the weather, I was attacked by insects
> last night, flying bugs.

Who would ever think that FED EX and UPS would be using electric powered delivery trucks in NY, Chicago, LA, Dallas, etc and now we will soon have Electric powered Semi's.

Right now, solar panels are getting better, seen on many homes now, and when power plants say its cheaper to buy electricity than produce it...huuummmmm.

The Biltmore House solars are capable of 1.5 MH...right now its saving them $50,000.00 a month on their electric bill.

[news-archives.solarenergy-usa.com]

Generally MW costs the average coal plant or nuclear plant around $75/MWH to make, in low load times power can be bought for $20/MWH just to keep the plants running, it costs $ to start one up. But there are times that the whole country is frozen in the middle of the night, power companies can't generate enough power to meet the needs and you can't buy power for $10,000/MWH that's when the tough decision of who gets power cut off happens and solar isn't doing anything to help that. Not so much defending the power companies, they want to make money, that's what it's about but when it's below freezing no one wants to go dark and I've seen men working their butts off in rough conditions to try and keep the machine going trying to keep that from happening. All through the organization everyone wants to make money but the average worker is going to do everything he can to keep power flowing into the houses, we know there are families in there. Hospitals first, houses second, Walmart, well no one cares about Walmart.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC