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Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: December 07, 2017 08:13AM

The Corvair sport coupe that never was – the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction




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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 07, 2017 06:19PM

That thing excites me every time I see it. smiling bouncing smiley

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 07, 2017 06:42PM

Will be fun to follow the auction!


Car sure looks better with the "staged" photos...compared to before..





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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Am-Iron ()
Date: December 10, 2017 08:55AM

It is mentioned by the builder, a respected GM designer, that that car was conveyed to a CORSA member for display at a museum. Why then has it been sold, and why is that being swept under the rug? The fact that this car is not in the CPF museum is very troubling to me. Also the fact that the wishes of this designer were completely disregarded on what he feels to be his signature in his life's achievements.The Molzon family could have easily sold that car themselves, if that is what they wished, and for much more than the token $1 that it was conveyed for.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Chilly Willy ()
Date: December 10, 2017 09:30AM

Totally agree Allen. I’d like to hear the resellers story after buying it from Molzon.



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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Am-Iron ()
Date: December 10, 2017 09:48AM

Chilly Willy Wrote:
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> Totally agree Allen. I’d like to hear the
> resellers story after buying it from Molzon.

This is from Mr. Molzon as reported in this national article. " Molzon’s Corvair was garaged for over four decades, but in early 2017 he concluded that, at age 78, he wasn’t going to do anything more with the car. His intention was to donate it to a museum, and the car was sold to a buyer for a token amount with that understanding. Instead, the car’s new owner sold it soon after the transaction."

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 10, 2017 09:58AM

Caveat Emditor

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 10, 2017 10:27AM

Allen... think about it... sounds fishy....


IF you were going to donate... why sell to someone... donate it!!





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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: December 10, 2017 10:30AM

Wasn't this car featured in another thread here?

Someone was "going to get it running"?

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 10, 2017 10:34AM

Right.. NapaVair showed us as well as Pete did when he got it..





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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Am-Iron ()
Date: December 10, 2017 11:09AM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Allen... think about it... sounds fishy....
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> IF you were going to donate... why sell to
> someone... donate it!!


Maybe because they are the president of the local club and they need a title for the museum? We offered the cutaway Corvair to the CPF and they did not accept it because it had no title at the time. Edit: I did not write the article, I am just reading it.



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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 10, 2017 11:15AM

The Molzen is titled per the article...

Maybe Mr. Molzen thought a Museum wold pay him for it? When no offers... he sold it?

Makes more sense..





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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Am-Iron ()
Date: December 10, 2017 11:31AM

MattNall Wrote:
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> The Molzen is titled per the article...
>
> Maybe Mr. Molzen thought a Museum wold pay him
> for it? When no offers... he sold it?
>
> Makes more sense..


For $1.00? I would have asked more than that for it if I was truly "selling" it.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Mountainman ()
Date: December 10, 2017 01:56PM

While maybe not illegal it’s certainly immoral since it was purchased for $1. Usually such token amounts coincide with a “donation”. Wonder what the local laws are concerning such transactions? Sometimes a verbal agreement is binding in court.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: December 10, 2017 02:11PM

I would suggest that "Speculation of motives" on this transaction is not an appropriate topic. If the "transaction" person wants to come forward and discuss/explain his role, I think that is very appropriate. Like you all, I would like to know. I followed this from the discovery point on. Maybe too "Pollyanna" but I would like to believe there is a good explanation.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Caveman_1960 ()
Date: December 10, 2017 02:34PM

The Molzon Corvair-powered special sat in his garage for many years. He decided to use the garage space for another of his cars. I was contacted and met with Mr. Molzon. He told me that he was ready to decommission and scrap the car. I asked if any of his family was interested in it and he said no. His son, Mark is into cars (Porsches) but from what I gathered he did not want the car either. I asked if the car was for sale and Mr. Molzon told me that if I could "do something with it" I could have it. I asked if he wanted to donate it and get a tax write-off. He did not want to do that so we agreed on the $1 sale price to make the transaction legal.

The Michigan title was signed and transferred to me. After several months my storage location became unavailable and the car had to be moved. I sold it to the current owner because he said he would fix it up and display the car in his private museum in Ohio. The pictures of the car that accompanied the eBay listing show that he did put the car in a display area that was roped off. Very nice.

Now that this owner has decided to sell the car it has generated a lot of interest. Probably because of the eBay asking price of $125,000. When that offer failed to find a buyer the car was offered on Craigslist for a similar amount. Since it didn't find a taker there the car is now going to auction early next year. I will not benefit from this sale. The $$$ that I got for the car will be used to continue my support for the Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum in Ypsilanti, Michigan.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 10, 2017 02:46PM

Is Paul Harvey here?? Because now we know the rest of the story!! ggg

Amazing how things get twisted...


Thanks Pete.... I knew it didn't sound right...


Do you think the car has been freshened and made road ready? or just cosmetic?





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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Caveman_1960 ()
Date: December 10, 2017 03:00PM

It appears that the car has been cleaned up and detailed - probably in preparation for it's debut at the auction. I hope he hasn't driven it on the street as that is not what Mr. Molzon wanted. Hopefully the next owner will display the car even if it stays in a private setting. One positive result of this new owner's desire for a big payday is the extended exposure of the car and it's designer/builder Mr. William Molzon.

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: December 10, 2017 03:56PM

Was it ever offered to the Corvair Museum?

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Re: Hemmings article on the 1968 Molzon Corvair - auction
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 10, 2017 05:51PM

So basically,Pete bought it on the cheap.flipped it.Now Pete's buyer is attempting to flip it again.

What was destined to be shit-canned,has recently changed hands twice and is a six figure car.

Neat.

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