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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: December 07, 2017 05:19AM

Broken parts happen all the time, How many law suits have been entered? Wasn't there a ball joint just break for someone? Numerous mechanical fuel pumps have leaked, etc.

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: JerryM ()
Date: December 07, 2017 06:30AM

Anyway...so no 418 arms out there?

Jerry - Placerville California

'63 Monza Cp. 102/ PG
'64 Rampside 140/4spd
'65 Monza Ct. 140/4spd.
'66 Corsa Cp. 140/4spd.
'57 Corvette 469C/685

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: December 07, 2017 06:39AM

In my recollection, GM ran out of replacement 418 arms and discontinued them well before the 417, hence the imbalance in supply.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 07, 2017 09:58AM

Since one might assume GM bought equal numbers from their supplier, one front wheel was more often involved in a "curb" or other event to bend that side arm, so a disproportionate amount of the 418 arms were sold.grinning smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: December 07, 2017 10:27AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> Since one might assume GM bought equal numbers
> from their supplier, one front wheel was more
> often involved in a "curb" or other event to bend
> that side arm, so a disproportionate amount of the
> 418 arms were sold.grinning smiley

Likely the answer right here. ^^^

The 418 fits the right side. As a Chevy parts guy, I sold about 3x the number of right side fenders and right headlight doors.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: December 07, 2017 07:13PM

vairmech Wrote:
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> Broken parts happen all the time, How many law
> suits have been entered? Wasn't there a ball joint
> just break for someone? Numerous mechanical fuel
> pumps have leaked, etc.


Ball joints wear out, fuel pumps leak, etc., however, once you modify a part, the original manufacturer is no longer legally liable for any injuries. In the case of a broken ball joint, it is considered a wear item, and it is your negligence if you don't periodically check them for wear, and replace as necessary. If you were to purchase a new ball joint, and have it installed by a certified mechanic, and it failed, then the mechanic, the shop, and the manufacturer of the ball joint would be severely and jointly responsible in the eyes of the law. To what degree each would be responsible would be up to the court. Liability is why I don't fix others cars, however, I will teach them how to do a repair correctly. If I repair my own car, I, and only I am responsible for the quality of the repair. If you want to do repairs for the public, then purchase liability insurance, and meet the requirements of your state to become a licensed repair shop.

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 07, 2017 09:07PM

Very few state actually license repair shops to repair vehicles. Many do make a shop have a business license, but that is just for taxing purposes.

Garage Keepers Liability is a good thing to have if you serve the public!

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: JerryM ()
Date: December 08, 2017 05:25AM

Who's liable for bad advice found here?

Jerry - Placerville California

'63 Monza Cp. 102/ PG
'64 Rampside 140/4spd
'65 Monza Ct. 140/4spd.
'66 Corsa Cp. 140/4spd.
'57 Corvette 469C/685

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: December 08, 2017 06:45AM

JerryM Wrote:
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> Who's liable for bad advice found here?

Corvair Center is a walk in the park compared to Facebook. I'd estimate 2/3 of the "advice" given on FB is, umm, "Off track".eye popping smiley

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: December 08, 2017 06:52AM

You get what you pay for. How much of a bargain is free advice if the source is questionable?

Lee J

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: ralph65corsa ()
Date: December 08, 2017 09:20AM

Junkman wrote: " If you want to do repairs for the public, then purchase liability insurance, and meet the requirements of your state to become a licensed repair shop."

Seems the vast majority of the Corvair-only repair "shops" I see across the country are operating out of their homes and not in a professional business setting. I would doubt they have licensing or shop insurance. I'd guess their homeownwers insurance would not cover running a auto repair business in their garage nor would they cover and liability for such an operation.

Most states require some sort of licensing, permits and a resellers account with thier state. No to mention Federal, county & city and code enforcement requirements.

In addition most states require repair work to be clearly documented so there is recourse should their be a problem.

Perhaps they only accept cash at the home-based operations to avoid any traceable responsibility and try to fly below the radar.

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Re: WTB 5! Steering Arms #3876418
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: December 09, 2017 10:27AM

So we are to the point now where people are so litigious that we scare of manufacturers or vendors who could potentially reproduce/manufacture/fabricate?
I am sure no one goes into a situation of providing a service thinking that their work can or could fail.
There are unscrupulous lawyers out there that can make a case out of ANYTHING.
I have done work as a witness/expert for different companies and lawyers and can attest to this. The difference is many lawyers do not know enough about cars or things mechanical. Judges especially do not know. All they know is the reputation that car mechanics have as being unscrupulous so the deck is already stacked.

Lee J

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