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"Very rare FC option" ? Not !
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 03, 2017 07:53PM

I visited this 1964 8-door Greenbrier deluxe today that recently listed on eBay. Appears to have a very rare option:



Note the extension panel on the intermediate rear door:
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I believe that this is a "Door Striker Cover" originally included with the FC taxicab equipment (RPO 420) to prevent passengers from sticking their fingers between the doors.


This may be what is listed as "extension assy" in the P & A catalog:



Can anyone pick out something else that is very surprising about this option?

Steve



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/2017 05:06PM by MattNall.

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: December 03, 2017 08:07PM

Looks like some bad rust in the corner of the right side door opening. How is the overall condition of the rest of the sheet metal?

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 03, 2017 08:14PM

Lots of rust in the usual places: front rocker panels, bottoms of the intermediate door jambs, bottoms of rear quarter panels, lower parts of several doors, some undercarriage sill rot, etc. Not an original FC engine, but it runs great.
Steve

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: December 03, 2017 09:57PM

The duluxe door panel is longer....

Marco Padilla - Realtor BRE#01944189

Century 21 Crest
1501 West Magnolia Blvd
Burbank, CA 91506
213-272-3239 Cell

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 12:28AM

SteveInMarietta Wrote:
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>
> Can anyone pick out something else that is very
> surprising about this option?
>
> Steve

Part #3783798 wasn't available for '61?

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe



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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 12:35AM

Wild guess,here. Because of the '61 intermediate door lock?

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 04, 2017 03:57AM

Marco's got it!

The standard inner panel was only as wide as the door (~ 24.5") - these are 27" wide. Notice the space between the panels in the FC below without the extension.



The P & A catalogs do not include such a panel. My first thought was that the these extra wide panels were part of the RPO 420 package, but the taxicab RPO no longer existed in 1964, as best I can tell. Maybe it a COPO?


I also observed that this '64 van has the third type of side door striker plate I've now observed.

In the 1961 651A P & A catalog, #3778927 is called a "striker plate", which I believe is the early 1961 striker plate with only a single catch (these are in my 61 GB but I don't have a picture). This striker was replaced in mid-'61.

The assembly manuals identify the striker plate as 3796765, which in all the P & A catalogs is called a "side rear and intermediate door lock". If we assume that the P & A catalogs are mistaken (not a bad assumption), then I believe this is the late 61 - 63 striker that I've shown above (from the 1963 Firebrier).

The assembly manuals do not show the part number to change, but I have seen in latter P & A catalogs that the part number for the 1964 "side rear and intermediate door lock" is given as 3848735 - which I would guess is the one I photographed above in the '64 Hippy van (and outlined in red). Notice the shape and that it has two catches but w/o the intervening opening in the plate. Was this the standard striker plate in '64"

However, a P & A catalog gives the part number for the 1965 "side rear and intermediate door lock" as 3773800. Was the side door striker plate redesigned again (4th time) for 1965. Can anyone check and see?

Steve

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 04:39AM

FWIW. I've seen these extended trim plated on many deluxe trimmed Greenbriers. Not sure how extremely rare they are.

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 04:42AM

It's also my understanding that the plate was added to prevent passengers from snagging their clothing or otherwise.

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 04, 2017 04:55AM

Any idea about how they were ordered? I have not seen them listed anywhere as option. I still wonder if they were a commercial cab/shuttle vehicle COPO item.
Steve

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 05:39AM

Sorry,Steve. I don't at this time. I'll bet Dave Newell would know,though.

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 04, 2017 06:14AM

Yes, I've emailed him.
Steve

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: December 04, 2017 07:40AM

I knew that trim or filler plate was standard in Deluxe models. Not sue about others like taxicab.

To add more confusion to Taxicab options...confused smiley
I have a factory 3/4 width seat in my Greenbrier. I installed it quite a few years ago. The information I have been able to find is that it is a Taxicab option, or a seat from a Chevy Suburban. Clarks made the vinyl seat cover.

Regardless... it's nice to only have to open one side door to get to both seats!

Corventure Dave

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 07:56AM

A few examples...

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: December 04, 2017 07:59AM

I've had a couple of deluxe GB over the years and that filler panel is familiar, though obviously not on all deluxes for some reason.

Steve, what's the group number in the parts book? That part was cropped out of your post. I'll do some research.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 04, 2017 08:14AM

Craig,
The Group Number is 17.112.
Steve

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 09:34AM

I don't think the knob type intermediate door locks would be considered rare. It seems like the majority of Deluxe Greenbriers I've seen had them.

Dan Brizendine,
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 09:38AM

Brizo Wrote:
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> I don't think the knob type intermediate door
> locks would be considered rare. It seems like the
> majority of Deluxe Greenbriers I've seen had them.


I was just guessing as to why the extended panel may not have been available on the right side,due to the early design of the intermediate door lock. Not that the lock itself is rare.

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe

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Re: Very rare FC option?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: December 04, 2017 09:53AM

The knob type side door lock was introduced in 1962 for all vans.

OK, not so rare... doing some web surfing (when I should be doing something else) has revealed a fair number of 64 deluxe FCs with the extensions and wider panels; obviously a difference I had never noticed before. But I'm all the more intrigued as to how these extensions were ordered and matched with a panel of the correct width. Unfortunately, Dave Newell was unable to share any additional insights.
Steve

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Re: "Very rare FC option" ? Not !
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: December 04, 2017 10:31AM

I'm talking about the ('61 only?) intermediate door lock with chrome knurled knob. Not the push-pull on the window sash.

Oregon City,Oregon
'61 Loadside
'62 8-door Corvan
'63 Greenbrier Deluxe



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