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SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 02, 2017 03:01PM

Old brackets let the big spindle bolt rub inside of the disc...no bueno.

Installed the correct newest generation Scarebird S-10 disc brake brackets.

Thanks to jetcat for the hook up on those...NAPA Ultra Premium semi metallic.

Went with semi metallic after talking to Arch and Seth...it's a street car.

Still not sure if the master cylinder is 1 1/8" rather than correct 1" bore.

Manana we go for test drive to the new VP Fuels retail gas station in town.

100 octane unleaded at the pump "only" $9.99 a gallon...should be fun.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 02, 2017 03:09PM

Should be fun!





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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:08AM

I love my front disc brakes on the street. Smooth stopping every time. Your must have been loud with that bolt hitting the rotor! Nasty groove on the old rotor.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:14AM

How about a pic of the OLD bracket that had the problem?





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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:39AM

I don't want to embarrass the person that made those ugly brackets and it wasn't Arch.

I figure the loss of stopping power was at about 25%...leaving 75% effectiveness.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:42AM

Lesson learned is when your Crew Chief or head bottle washer guy is working on the hot rod...be very specific about what is to be done.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:46AM

Hard to believe he didn't rotate the assy. after finishing!! Or was it a matter of "as the pads wore"?





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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 11:58AM

It didn't get done the way Arch wanted it done....it's right now.

Just about ready to go for a hot lap...full report in a bit.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 03, 2017 12:14PM

To me... "el Cheapo" I'd just grind the head of the bolt down....eye popping smiley





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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: December 03, 2017 02:36PM

Pics and vids would be great!!! Hey Phil...i guess one is never too far under the weather to scream a Corvair BEAST!!!! Good to hear.

-m



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'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 02:38PM

Nothing like raw horse power, torque, and tire smoke.

To clear out that pesky eight day old head cold I've had.

We got brakes a plenty...ready to go road racing for sure.

I'm going to have my wife do a video for you all soon enough.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 03, 2017 05:44PM

I run those UP's on my motor home, lots of stopping grunt

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:11PM

The original disc brake kit I had installed included a bolt to replace the upper contact stud for the brake shoes, using that as the upper retainer for the bracket. The diameter of the 65 bolt was not the same diameter as the hole in the bracket. When I first assembled it, there was way too much slop in the upper hole. I found out later that 65 and 66-up bolts have different diameter threaded holes for the top bolt. On my car, I made a pair of small bushings to center the bracket. The best way - ironically - is to take the original removed stud, and lop off the top of it and use it to retain the new Scarebird bracket. That is what Scarebird suggests now, I believe.

Seth Emerson

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:30PM

S/V has the bigger bolt...an improvement for 1966.

I did just put the shaved down bolts back in...cleaned up.

A set of those bushings are left over if anybody needs them.


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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:33PM

Nice work Phil! thumbs up

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:42PM

I used Stig pictures during the process for orientation purposes.

Great pictures of the same disc conversion in that threads picture link.

If the drop top rnch just bought was LOS built...I would have grabbed it.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:53PM

BTW: Scarebird brackets work both directions reversed.

All other brakes parts are easy stocked any flaps 1990 S-10.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:54PM

So... did you notice much difference? Pad composition was most likely the difference...

The bolt head... METAL is the superior material for braking! When these rotors start to show wear and you are just putting pads on... find some full metallics... you won't believe the difference!





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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:56PM

One catch...bearing hub must be turned down a few thousands so the disc slides over it.

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Re: SuperVair Gets Way More Whoa...Still Plenty of Go!!!
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: December 03, 2017 06:58PM

Yes...much better brakes with way less pedal.

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