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self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: November 30, 2017 04:29PM

I'm thinking of adding all of the self adjusting hardware on my 60.

Of course Clark's doesn't list it, since 60's didn't have them. I have collected all the parts I need, which are used, and have had them for some time now.

My question, is there any reason that I can not use self adjusting brakes on a 60? I can't imagine why I couldn't, but asking just the same.

I did however purchase new adjusting wheels since they do tend to wear.

What say you!

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 30, 2017 04:42PM

You'll have to drill the extra holes in the very early brakes shoes.

Did you grab any of the shoes when you got the hardware?





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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: November 30, 2017 08:47PM

189 is the later early shoe number. 111 is the earliest shoe number. Order 189s and it will be fine.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: December 01, 2017 05:14AM

The pivot bolt diameter is smaller so you have to cut a bushing to slide over yours to have the correct diameter surface for 189 brake shoes to pivot on. You could use the 111 shoes if you drilled the larger hole. Keep in mind that the hole is close to the edge and the 189 has extra metal for that hole that the 111 does not. You could swap in later 63/64 backing plates with larger pivot bolts to avoid these details. Unfortunately, you would then have to change the drums too, as self adjuster units are adjusted from the drum side rather than the backing plate. 63/64 backing plates have no adjuster slots.
Crawford Rose

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: December 01, 2017 06:26AM

Matt and Frank thanks!

Well it seems I didn't keep any shoes. Didn't even think about them. But modding the shoes and drilling could work I guess. Or just buy the correct shoes!

Crawford thanks for the info on the pivot bolt.

I may have to start looking for backing plates if drilling isn't an option.

Didn't know the pivot bolt was different diameter. I just started collecting parts a long time ago, and I guess I will be collecting more parts to do it the right way! If I ever do it now!

Thanks so much!

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: December 01, 2017 11:37AM

With the exception of the brake cylinders and the primary brake spring on the manual adjusting system, none of the parts are the same as with self-adjusters! Shoes, pivot pin bolts, backing plates, drums are all different! I used the later shoes employing the bushing method so I could reinstall the 60 shoes later if necessary.

Crawford Rose

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: December 01, 2017 01:13PM

If you go with the 189's in the rear, you will need to change out the park brake arm that the cable attaches to. The pivot pin is smaler and longer for the 111 than for the 189. Longer due to the added reinfocement plates spot welded to the 111's at that location.


I installed self adjusters on my 62 wagon. Used all new parts except the drums.

Marco
Sun Valley Ca 91352

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Re: self adjusting brakes on a 60?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: December 02, 2017 05:19AM

Thanks guys for the additional info.

I guess for now, I will hold off on this. Thought now would be a good time, while I had axles out and getting ready to install.

But it seems I either need to forget this plans or get more parts for when I do!

Thanks so much!

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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