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FOUND!! Block cover required for 140HP engine '65-9
Posted by: rhysaccess ()
Date: November 23, 2017 04:26AM

Howdy all,

Does someone have a alloy block cover (for the blower bearing) to suit a '66 140 HP engine - that they can sell me and post to Australia?

Thanks & regards,

Rhys



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2017 12:58PM by MattNall.

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 23, 2017 04:32AM

Yes, and do you also need the baffle?
BC
Dobson, NC
27017

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: rhysaccess ()
Date: November 23, 2017 04:36AM

No baffle required (I didn't break that)

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 23, 2017 04:49AM

Check your baffle for the common problem of cracks at the end of the slots on the bottom side.
Also , if it overly flexible, you have a early style that should be discarded.
That type sometimes end up wrapped around the crankshaft.
Just as easy to send a baffle at the same time.
BTW, the baffle should have the ends of the slots drilled to a small round hole and deburred, so as not have a crack start in the future.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 23, 2017 08:14AM

See your PM

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 23, 2017 09:11AM

rhysaccess Wrote:
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> No baffle required (I didn't break that)

Did you try to press out/in the fan bearing assembly and break the cover? If your not aware - use a propane torch to heat the aluminum cover and the bearing/flange will fall out (or need a minor push)

Here is a pic of a tool (somebody else had this great idea) that allows you to heat the cover and the new bearing will drop in easily. The tool is adjusted to the bearing flange to cover flange height so it stops at the correct heght (in the manual). Bearing height is critical or the belt will come off.

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: November 23, 2017 10:45AM

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Bearing height is critical or the belt will come off.

Or, the fan rubs the "turkey roaster" (it is Thanksgiving in the US today, holiday reference).

For years I pressed them in and out without heat, but after breaking my first attempt, I supported the center area with a piece of 3" (or what ever size the bearing assembly fits inside of {in my case it is a cutoff from fence post installation at the shop}) pipe. No mention of heat in shop manuals...sad smiley

Then 20 years later, I read about using heat..... Waay easier. I still use the pipe and press, but very little pressure required, and no damage to the bore of the top cover.

I always measure the height (earlies and lates differ slightly) of the flange as shown in the shop manual, as most engines I work on have been subjected to who knows what before I see them.thumbs up

More good news, any 65 and later top cover will work.

You can also buy them with the bearing installed from our vendors. I know, more shipping charges!

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: 2ragtops ()
Date: November 23, 2017 05:46PM

Rhys

I thought the parts I sold you a couple of years ago were for a turbo?

You didn't change engines did you?

I have a stack of covers I will send you one


Send me your address by PM


Bob

Bob Bauer

Show-Me Corvairs

1966 Monza Convert 140 P/G with A/C, plastic wheel with tele-column am-fm posi-traction
1966 Corsa Convert 180 wood wheel tele-column am-fm sport steering posi-traction
1965 Corsa Coupe Crown V8 temporarily red lined for repair
House Springs, Missouri

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: November 23, 2017 05:55PM

Bob, does not matter turbo, 140, 110*, 95*. All same top cover and fan bearing.

*1964 versions of these still have the small bearing of early models. Confused? AT least these engine blocks still have the Y and Z codes, not the R codes of the late model engine blocks.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: 2ragtops ()
Date: November 23, 2017 07:07PM

Frank

Thanks for the comments....I am aware that they are all the same

I was merely commenting on the fact that he had a turbo at one time and now is looking for parts for a 140

Bob Bauer

Show-Me Corvairs

1966 Monza Convert 140 P/G with A/C, plastic wheel with tele-column am-fm posi-traction
1966 Corsa Convert 180 wood wheel tele-column am-fm sport steering posi-traction
1965 Corsa Coupe Crown V8 temporarily red lined for repair
House Springs, Missouri

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: rhysaccess ()
Date: November 23, 2017 08:05PM

Hi Bob,

Thank you for the offer. (I think other Bob has it under control) Really appreciate it though

I still have the 180 HP turbo, and the 110 HP Rampside.....and now this RHD 140 HP Monza convertible.

I imported a 80 HP & 150 HP turbo engines some years ago as spares...all early of course and not suitable.

Cheers,
Rhys

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 23, 2017 11:20PM

rhysaccess Wrote:
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> Hi Bob,
>
> Thank you for the offer. (I think other Bob has it
> under control) Really appreciate it though
>
> I still have the 180 HP turbo, and the 110 HP
> Rampside.....and now this RHD 140 HP Monza
> convertible.
>
> I imported a 80 HP & 150 HP turbo engines some
> years ago as spares...all early of course and not
> suitable.

>
> Cheers,
> Rhys

Unless you are going for a perfect factory restoration, I would not consider a 150 Turbo to be an "unsuitable" option!
If it really bothers you, put a LM 180hp sticker on the aircleaner!grinning smiley

But, I do like the 140's.
I have 2 of them myself.
Quite responsive, and no turbo lag.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: November 24, 2017 02:11AM

Toward the end of the Corvair production, GM came out with a tool that you could pull out the bearing with, and then press in the new bearing, without removing the top engine cover. It bolted on both sides of the tope engine cover, and spanned over the top of the bearing. I have used one a couple of times in the past. I don't own it, but a friend does. One of those tools that you seldom need, but is a time saver when you do.

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 24, 2017 04:47AM

It seems like any tool that pulls the fan bearing with removing the top cover would require the fan to be removed.
How is this possible ??

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 24, 2017 06:40AM

Ryhs, I can get you in contact with a couple of different Corvair owners in Australia if you want to save the big shipping and maybe import fees.

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 24, 2017 06:58AM

No import fees to bring private purchased goods into OZ with a value under $1000 AU $.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: rhysaccess ()
Date: November 24, 2017 08:02AM

Hi Ken,

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Ken
Ryhs, I can get you in contact with a couple of different Corvair owners in Australia

Thanks for that. While it's unlikely to bear fruit on this issue - future networking is always beneficial. Can you PM me with any Australian owners you know?

Regards,
Rhys

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: November 24, 2017 08:17PM

dryenko Wrote:
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> It seems like any tool that pulls the fan bearing
> with removing the top cover would require the fan
> to be removed.
> How is this possible ??

The top cover that I was referring to is the aluminum cover that bolts to the engine block, not the top engine shroud, what people here call the turkey roaster pan.

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Re: Block cover required for 140HP engine
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 25, 2017 07:15AM

OK got it.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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