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One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: November 20, 2017 02:03PM

Has anyone ordering the Corvair ventless window kit received instructions for same? I ordered and received the kit last year, and have never received the instructions, even after numerous calls over this last year's time.

-Mark

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 20, 2017 04:46PM

Mark...check your regular e-mail.

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: cooterr ()
Date: November 20, 2017 05:19PM

The instructions are listed on their website...
Here is a link to the instructions: [www.onepieceproducts.com]

Tom Miller
Performance Corvair Group
Circle City Corvairs
Corsa

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 20, 2017 06:27PM

Those one piece windows really look good, I am just not ready to give up that nice little vent window.
I wish modern cars had them.

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I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 20, 2017 06:46PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> Those one piece windows really look good, I am
> just not ready to give up that nice little vent
> window.
> I wish modern cars had them.


I hear ya. I like the old style vent windows too.

I like them so much I took a pair off, a year ago, from some of my Corvair doors to see if they would fit on an Ultravan.
They are not the right shape and are too short.
However, I've looked into stealing some parts from them to make bigger ones that will fit. GRIN

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: November 21, 2017 02:12PM

And I'm trying to figure out how to use them on a 4 door! confused smiley

As far as I'm concerned, they are a vision block and are useless, what with the excellent kick vents at my command, and especially with an air conditioning system on board.

I've owned my convertible since '71 and can count the number of times the vent windows have been opened on the fingers of one hand, and have fingers left over. That tell you how useful they are to me?

But I know a lot of guys would consider eliminating them to be heresy. Oh well...eye rolling smiley

-Mark

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 21, 2017 05:25PM

One Piece is the definition of cool.

SuperVair's will be installed soon.

Arch went for the power option...BITCHEN.

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: January 24, 2018 05:58PM

OK, has anyone on this forum successfully completed the installation of these cool windows?

Mark?? (67 airvair)

If so, can you provide feedback on the installation process?

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia


1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: January 24, 2018 10:01PM

Dean (and all),

I got so fed up with trying to get the instructions from the company that I sold the box-full-of-parts/no-instructions "kit" to another person. (Besides, I needed the money.) It was only lately that I was sent the instructions by another Forum member.

As to the kit, I MAY try again at some point in time. Would still like to get rid of them in my 4 door, but their glass is clear (would have to be tinted) and there is a bracket attached to the glass right where the cut-off for a 4 door pane would be. It would have to be moved. And can it be recut at all? Also don't know if the 4 door would be able to have the same angle drop change they use on the 2 door conversion. A lot of uncertain items to consider.

But I STILL would like to do it, and get rid of those antique, outmoded, useless vision blockers.

-Mark

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 25, 2018 06:22AM

67 airvair Wrote:
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> ...useless vision blockers.

That's funny. These days, A-pillars are so fat my vision is blocked much more than by a Corvair vent window. Visibility out of modern cars is so poor they have to install several cameras and perimeter warning devices just so you'll know a big yellow school bus is next to you. grinning smiley

I have no problem modding Vairs. Just thought it's funny how things are perceived differently by all of us.


Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed
65 Corsa 140 4-speed
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 110 Convertible
65 Monza 4DR 140 PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T w/5-speed




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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 25, 2018 07:03AM

67 airvair Wrote:
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> Dean (and all),
>
> I got so fed up with trying to get the
> instructions from the company that I sold the
> box-full-of-parts/no-instructions "kit" to another
> person. (Besides, I needed the money.) It was only
> lately that I was sent the instructions by another
> Forum member.

The first day you posted, Nov 20, 2017, someone posted a link to the instructions from the company's website. Were those instructions inadequate?

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: January 25, 2018 08:57AM

Ventless looks good, BUT my 69 Camaro had them and I HATED THEM. Rattled, wind buffetting. Only good if you leave them up and run the A/C in the summer.

Convinced me those little vent windows on the 67-68 Camaro's were great.

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: January 25, 2018 01:38PM

Craig, it's been a while,so I've lost track of exact timeline. Regardless, I think it inexcusable for ANY company to not follow through even one, let alone repeated requests made over approximately a year's time span for something as basic as instructions. Every time I requested them, I got some variation of "we'll send them to you in about a week, because ...." excuse. And that was all I ever got. Last fall some time I sold the kit, less instructions, but kept after the company for them. I eventually did get the instructions, as you said, but it was NOT from the company. So the score for their service work, I have to give them a fat ZERO. Just my experience, mind you, "your mileage may differ."

As to comparing the Corvair with modern cars, isn't that a bit like comparing apples and oranges? While I agree modern cars are horrible (my '14 sudo-Impala has horrible rearward vision, but it at least isn't a current Camaro) in regards to vision blocks, the Corvair is of a different era. And with today's cars, just look at how much outer glass is painted over black, because there is body structure and trim panels behind that blacked out glass. Now there's a practice that ought to be banned! Modern cars have rollover tests to comply with, which is, I gather, why the heavier body pillars. As a result, I doubt the Corvair would do as well in an accident as today's cars.

The reasons vent windows were removed as standard equipment were several, the vision blocking was just one. But a/c was gaining (eventually becoming all but standard on today's cars) and smoking was declining. The result is that they became outdated, expensive, and less and less used by the public.

But as I said, some people consider removing them from a Corvair to be heresy. But for reasons already given, I'd welcome their removal. But since my Corvairs are antiques, I suffer through having them for sake of remaining "stock." Just my feelings.

-Mark

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 25, 2018 02:03PM

67 airvair Wrote:
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> As to comparing the Corvair with modern cars...

Mark, I said "That's funny" and left you a big toothy grinning emoticon to show I was not being all that serious about my comments. grinning smiley grinning smiley grinning smiley


Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed
65 Corsa 140 4-speed
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 110 Convertible
65 Monza 4DR 140 PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T w/5-speed




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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 25, 2018 03:33PM

67 airvair Wrote:
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. . . . . . . . .
> The reasons vent windows were removed as standard
> equipment were several, the vision blocking was
> just one. But a/c was gaining (eventually becoming
> all but standard on today's cars) and smoking was
> declining. The result is that they became
> outdated, expensive, and less and less used by the
> public.

>
> -Mark

That one word sums it up right there.
The "General" would sell his own metaphorical mother if money could be made!
I believe the public would use them, IF they were still in cars.
I use mine all the time. And I know many people that still say how much they miss those little "Wind-wings" as we used to call them.

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I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - 140 4-spd. driver

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: john.jackson ()
Date: January 25, 2018 03:55PM

About vent windows: I think of the evolution of the 1985 to 2001 Jeep Cherokee to see the evolution of vent windows. The 85 Cherokee had movable vent windows. By the early 90's, fixed vent windows were optional. And with the 97 Cherokee, vent windows were replaced with a single window pane.

With my 91 Jeep, I have gone from movable vets to fixed vents. I will be moving to the single piece glass window.

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: January 26, 2018 06:23AM

Dave, I thought you were referring to the school bus comment.grinning smiley

As to the subject of vent windows, you know how they originated? In the early 20th century as an alternative to the cowl vent flap that often leaked water, but more importantly, to address the subject of smoking, which was quite common then. They found that with the aerodynamics of cars being as they were, an opening like what became the vent window allowed a driver to hold his cigarette in his left hand, near the window, and smoke would be sucked out while fresh air was pulled in. Thus passengers had less second-hand smoke in the cabin air.

Cabin ventilation has progressed tremendously since then, and smoking is far less common (to the point of making ash trays optional or nonexistent). Thus the wing window has become an archaic relic of olden days, like the buggy whip for example. Their effectiveness on modern cars, with aerodynamic shapes, has degraded to the point of being far less effective than a properly designed ventilation system, as found on most cars of today. It may not seem like that, but it's true. Thus they have become more nostalgic than practical.

-Mark

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: January 26, 2018 12:34PM

66vairman Wrote:
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> Convinced me those little vent windows on the
> 67-68 Camaro's were great.

If you happen across a 68 Camaro with vent windows.......BUY IT!

'29 Ford Model A Tudor
'61 700 Lakewood 110 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.
'70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 4 speed

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio

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Re: One Piece Products instructions
Posted by: BamBamm13 ()
Date: January 29, 2018 10:11AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> 66vairman Wrote:
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> > Convinced me those little vent windows on the
> > 67-68 Camaro's were great.
>
> If you happen across a 68 Camaro with vent
> windows.......BUY IT!

Hahaha

West Garden Grove, CA

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