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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 19, 2018 05:31PM

With the Glenn car gone to the body shop I finally have some space in my garage to start working on the smaller projects.

First up - the engine. Pictured here is the original engine for this car - not the engine I took out of it, but the actual engine that was original to the car. It was passed on to me by the prior owner and has been sitting on this cart in my garage for 16 years! Surprisingly, even though some parts have been removed, it still turns over by hand, so at least it should be easy to tear apart. I will start the disassembly this weekend and post photos as I go. The plan is to restore it and reunite it to the car. I’ll post the engine and cylinder head numbers in the next post, but they are correct for a 110HP PG CAC motor.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 19, 2018 05:33PM

Engine code and Right and left cylinder head codes.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 25, 2018 01:56PM

I made some progress today - got the engine block, top cover, baffle, rear housing and sundry smaller parts cleaned today. Next I’ll start cleaning the heads before sending them and the crank, etc. out for machine work. Also it looks like it’s about time to figure out an order of engine parts from Clark’s.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: April 25, 2018 04:27PM

You are an excellent cleaner guy thumbs upkeep up the good work

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 06, 2018 07:52PM

Crankcase parts are all cleaned, polished. Now waiting on machine shop for heads and crankshaft work - then I’ll place a parts order - will get new camshaft and timing gear, new pistons, cylinders.

Also all the sheet metal, oil filler tube, pulleys, etc are at the powder coaters

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 06, 2018 07:55PM

Hurry up!! GG





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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: May 07, 2018 03:18AM

Bill, what did you use to clean the block parts?

-Tom


63' Monza Spyder Convertable (in process) MY Build Thread
73' NovaSS 454 Big block
86' BMW 325es
98' Dodge 2500 12v Cummins Diesel with 1200 lb torque!
98' VW Jetta TDI, for daughter
01' Audi Allroad Stage 3 twin turbo

NFCC
Grand Island, NY

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 07, 2018 03:45AM

Cleaning steps:
1) Degreased with Zep Industrial Purple Cleaner and Degreaser in a large plastic tub (work quickly because the solution also attacks aluminum!)
2) Thoroughly rinsed with water
3) Blow-dried
4) light blasting with media
5) Polishing of gasket and bearing surfaces using Dremel brushes.
6) Brushing and polishing all ports and screw holes.

Cleaning and polishing was more aggressive on exterior visible surfaces, such as oil filter adaptor, less-so on critical areas, such as cam “bearing” or gasket surfaces (don’t want to remove metal!)

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: May 07, 2018 04:44AM

Thanks, they look great!

-Tom


63' Monza Spyder Convertable (in process) MY Build Thread
73' NovaSS 454 Big block
86' BMW 325es
98' Dodge 2500 12v Cummins Diesel with 1200 lb torque!
98' VW Jetta TDI, for daughter
01' Audi Allroad Stage 3 twin turbo

NFCC
Grand Island, NY

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: corvairsince70 ()
Date: May 07, 2018 08:00AM

Bill,
Are you restoring this car to completely stock? If so should you paint all engine sheet metal vs powder coat. The trained eye can tell powder from liquid.

Dennis
Nashville area
'68 Conv 140 PG
'66 Corsa Conv 180
'66 Corsa 140

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 07, 2018 09:17AM

The trained eye can kiss my ***.

I’m restoring to stock appearance but it will never be original again, so I am using material that hold up well over time. I’ve done it both ways and powder coating holds up better in the long run.

Speaking of runs, did you know the factory dipped the sheet metal parts in paint which is why you have all those runs and thickly painted areas on stock parts. Even if I wanted to, I could never perfectly duplicate the random imperfections of the original process.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: May 07, 2018 10:38AM

whubbell Wrote:
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> The trained eye can kiss my ***.


Well...your signature line does say "President, Stock Corvair Group".


You're fired! Ha-ha!! grinning smiley grinning smiley grinning smiley


Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed
65 Corsa 140 4-speed
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 110 Convertible
65 Monza 4DR 140 PG w/factory A/C
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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 07, 2018 04:33PM

Well, restoration is an imperfect process. Unless I had nearly unlimited resources, including access to manufacturing process that existed 55 years ago, there are bound to be some deviations from the original. Hopefully when I am done it will achieve the goal of looking as much like the original as possible, all things considered, but it will not be original. Some things are just no longer possible- like Terne coating. Some parts are no longer available (like that rubber seal at the rear of the quarter window I posted earlier in this thread. The fact that I may choose to use a more modern coating material on a part to give it greater durability (or perhaps because the original coating is no longer available) should not detract from the effort.

You surely don’t expect me to build the engine with nitrile rubber o-rings, do you?

Anyway, I will always refer to this as a restoration - hopefully a faithful representation of the original. The goal is Factory Stock Restored.

And hey, anytime y’all want to vote in a new President of SCG I’m cool with that. There hasn’t been a whole lot of interest in the job, you know?

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 13, 2018 02:27PM

Cleaned up the Glenn car’s steering box and two spare boxes this weekend. The gear inside the Glenn Box was pretty worn, but I think I have at least one decent set of gears from one of the other boxes.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 13, 2018 02:32PM

These are the worm nut gears from the three boxes. The brightly copper colored one looks to be in much better shape than the other two.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 13, 2018 02:34PM

Here are the sector gears from the three boxes. Again, one looks to be in much better condition than the other two.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: May 13, 2018 08:48PM

Looks good Bill. Three steering boxes to make one...that sounds familiar. Just make sure the case you use is the one w/ the casting code date that corresponds to your car.

Also use some sort of sealant on the big screw cap such as Leak-Lock or Permatex thread sealer...I forgot to do that on mine and it leaks a bit under the lock ring. It's the ONLY place my entire Corvair leaks anything. angry smiley

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 15, 2018 04:47PM

Back from the Blaster!!!! hot smiley

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 15, 2018 04:48PM

Hope to get some underbody photos tomorrow!

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: May 25, 2018 11:07AM

Some underbody shots

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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