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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: March 30, 2018 04:03PM

It took nearly two months of intermittent heating, scraping, wire-brushing, and wiping, using a heat gun, several scrapers (wood chisels work best!), a gallon of Mineral Spirits, nearly two boxes of paper rags, a couple boxes of nitrile gloves, occasionally a dremel or drill-driven wire brush, head, ear, and eye protection, work lights, a milk crate (to sit on), numerous showers and laundries, but the wheel wells are finally stripped of the undercoating.

These are photos of the tools used and the removed material.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: April 04, 2018 10:46PM

Bill, I have a question.Since my entire car was undercoated, I can't tell where the wheel-well undercoating was supposed to stop & start. Can you please explain where it should/shouldn't be, and where the transitions are?

Thanks, and keep up the good work!



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: April 05, 2018 04:33AM

^^ Undercoating was in the wheel wells only. Applied with the bumper supports, headlight buckets and outboard taillights in place so they get coated as well. There was a little overspray of undercoating behind the front wheel wells but not much.

Nice work on the undercoating Bill...I love that you kept it all in a bin LOL!

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Other fun car: Porsche 911 GT3
Boring daily drivers
Northern Colorado, USA



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: April 05, 2018 06:16AM

Nick, in the rear, did it stop at the main pinch weld, or did it continue on to the frame rails? How about the lower, outward-facing engine compartment sheet metal?

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: April 05, 2018 06:35AM

bbakerga Wrote:
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> Nick, in the rear, did it stop at the main pinch
> weld, or did it continue on to the frame rails?
> How about the lower, outward-facing engine
> compartment sheet metal?

My donor car was all original unmolested at the rear. The undercoating did not extend beyond the wheel wells at the rear other than a little overspray.

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Other fun car: Porsche 911 GT3
Boring daily drivers
Northern Colorado, USA



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: April 05, 2018 10:10AM

Bill, you can now sell that old undercoating as "Historical" pieces, and recoup some of your cost of restoration! grinning smiley

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: April 05, 2018 10:23AM

What method is the car going to be stripped with?

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: April 05, 2018 01:31PM

I think you should check on dry ice blasting. I have done 2 cars with plastic media and it NEVER seems to go away. It get's into every nook and cranny and into places you can't see or get to. I had my car on a rotisserie and every time I turned it I got another rain of plastic media. I does a great job though. I don't have personal experience with dry ice but I've seen it done on videos and it seems very effective. The big bonus though is it leaves NO residue. Good luck and BTW, what you've done so far looks fantastic!

Dan
Chandler, AZ
1966 Corsa Turbo Convertible
[corvaircenter.com]

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 09:45AM

The Glenn Car departed my garage today, beginning its journey of stripping, bodywork, and painting. Glenn Corvair Leaving Home

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 09:52AM

A few photos of the car getting out of the garage and on the trailer.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 10:29AM

To answer a few questions from earlier:

1) The undercoating mostly stopped at the wheel wells, but some overspray was found beyond them, in particular on the outer edges of the engine compartment side rails, upper outer corners of the heater box area, upper outer corners of the gas tank area, and the outer sides of the trunk well.

2) I primarily saved the undercoating to weigh it (which I haven’t done yet), but wouldn’t it be cool if I could melt it down and reapply it, so as to keep the car that much more “original”? grinning smiley. I wonder if that’s really even possible?

3) So far as stripping the car is concerned, I have already taken off most of the yucky re-paint topcoat using scrapers and elbow grease, exposing the original paint and primer. I’ve also already removed most of the seam sealer wherever I could get to it. The car is now on its way to be fully stripped - either by blasting or possibly by dipping - we are investigating that second option. If the car is dipped it would get rid of everything, so it would also get coated with a rust inhibiting agent at the same time. Otherwise, it will be standard sand blasting by an expert who has done a lot of cars that way and knows how to do it without damaging the car. I’ll keep the group posted and send more photos as we progress.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 03:00PM

Glenn’s new home (for awhile, anyway):
Yokum’s Signature Hot Rods

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: April 18, 2018 03:10PM

Bill, I have a few undercarriage paint/undercoating questions.

Are the front suspension-mount brackets that wrap around the subframe undercoated, or was the car undercoated before they were installed?

Same question for brake hose mounting brackets...?

Regarding the engine compartment metal that faces outward and forward, what paint was on those surfaces? Body color, body color overspray, or just primer?

Lastly, what paint should be on the tunnel pan covers? Mine are completely undercoated.

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: April 18, 2018 03:24PM

OT question here.
ADHD distraction going on.smiling bouncing smiley
Is that an art piece in the background, or are those metal strips some kind of templates? confused smiley

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 04:07PM

Yes, there is undercoating overspray on various parts of the suspension components and brake parts (especially brackets) that are in the wheel wells. It is obvious that the suspensions, bumper braces, headlight buckets, and taillights were installed prior to the undercoating as there is undercoating overspray on all these parts.

The paint on the engine compartment metal facing outward is red primer with body color overspray; the forward facing metal is red primer.

Tunnel covers are painted chassis black - same as front and rear suspension parts.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: April 18, 2018 04:11PM

Your doing a very nice job , apparently your not afraid of work .

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA



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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 04:39PM

Don’t know how well this visualizes, but the first photo shows the undercoating overspray on the top of the outer end of the front crossmember while the second photo of the right front wheelwell (taken before I cleaned it) shows undercoating on the brake line bracket and no undercoating on areas that were covered by front crossmember parts.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: whubbell ()
Date: April 18, 2018 04:43PM

Mel, I have no idea what those metal strips are. He just moved into this new facility April 1st and I haven’t visited it yet. He sent me these photos today after taking my car to his shop. I’ll get down there eventually and perhaps I will find an answer to your question.

Bill Hubbell,
President, Stock Corvair Group

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: April 18, 2018 05:23PM

I’m almost positive the are body-line templates. Like giant French curves. They use them in making molds for things like boat hulls, also.

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Re: Glenn Corvair Restoration
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: April 19, 2018 08:07AM

bbakerga Wrote:
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I’m almost positive they are body-line templates.
Like giant French curves.
They use them in making molds for things like boat hulls, also.


That was kinda what I was thinking, but I have never seen them before, so I was not sure.
Thanks.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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