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Is this TRUE?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 16, 2017 05:59PM

1960 with '61 nose...by Factory??????

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Re: Is this TRUE?
Date: November 16, 2017 06:08PM

Yeah, Sure!
They "ran out" of 1960 body parts at Fisher Body, so they jumped to the future to grab some 1961 parts and bring 'em back so they could make just a few more cars.... confused smiley

How 'bout - it was in a front end bender and the panel was replaced some time later after the car had been on the road.

Yeah the hidden VIN would be the same even if the front panel had been replaced.

I just love the stories people come up with... smoking smiley


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1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468



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Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: November 16, 2017 06:17PM

I remember seeing a convertible that had a 1960 front body panel installed, and it did look good on it. I particularly like the 1960 hoods better than the 1961 - 1964. That is the nice thing about the Corvair, unless you are a purist, you are free to make any changes that you like, to satisfy your whims. Through the years there have been some very interesting cars built by the hobby, from the late model limo, to the early model stubby cars. I only wonder what becomes of them after the people that built them get tired of them, or they pass onto the next world. Where do these cars disappear to?

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 16, 2017 06:18PM

Direct quote for future reference.

1960 Chevrolet "CORVAIR"/ Rare "CLASSIC"!

**This is a unique Corvair. They ran out of pieces on the production line and it is a 1961 Front End and a 1960 Back End, VIN in front is the same as back.
This was verified by a professional Corvair mechanic.
He said there were only 150 made like this on the production line.
So this is still considered and 1960 Corviar. TITLE SAYS 1960 CHEVROLET CORVAIR**

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Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: November 16, 2017 06:20PM

They can go smoke smoke more crack. As Dan says... Front end damage repaired with a later panel. My 60 Monza is several thousand higher on the vin and correct with its concave nose. Although neatly it does have the decklid with the spare tire relief. That is something they had changed over too....

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: November 16, 2017 08:04PM

Can't you guys read? It was verified by a professional Corvair mechanic. This is 1 of 150 like this (making it more rare than an air conditioned Corsa or a 1962 Loadside or a 69 convertible). Too bad rarity does not equal value. Wasn't this car on this forum for sale recently (as a parts car)?

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: November 16, 2017 08:09PM

I have never owned a 60 or even ridden in a 60 it looks like it is worth the price to me. YMMV.

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: November 16, 2017 10:47PM

1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, Sure!
> They "ran out" of 1960 body parts at Fisher Body,
> so they jumped to the future to grab some 1961
> parts and bring 'em back so they could make just a
> few more cars.... confused smiley
>
> How 'bout - it was in a front end bender and the
> panel was replaced some time later after the car
> had been on the road.
>
> Yeah the hidden VIN would be the same even if the
> front panel had been replaced.
>
> I just love the stories people come up with...
> smoking smiley

Agree...

All you need is someone knowledgeable about the factory welds versus body shop welds.

Personally, I think that the "matching numbers" claim is suspect. But, whatever.

When things were slow in the 60's / 70's (and ???), body shops would take two damaged cars (one front-ended / one rear-ended) and put them together.

I know of a body shop guy that "made" himself an early 70's (72?) Cadillac Coupe De Ville that way around 1976. Need a good body shop guy and a good frame guy.

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 17, 2017 06:10AM

Be very leery of corroded seals.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

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Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: November 17, 2017 06:49AM

Ahhh...two sayings immediately spring to mind...

"There is a sucker born every minute" and "Caveat Emptor"....

This guy should be a used car salesman..oh wait, he is...

Let us just start with some basic facts...

The VIN is 007270126698 which tells us it "is" a 1960 Corvair 700 coupe built in Oakland CA in March of 1960. (by the TRIM tag data, March 11th to be precise.)


(On...VV someone stated that it could be a 61 "titled" as a 60...but it is titled 60 and VIN + Fisher Tag confirm it is a 1960)


So if the car was built in March of 1960 and the VIN tells us it was the 126,698th Corvair built at Oakland for 1960..

So "if they ran out of "60 front ends" you would think it would be near the end of production, right?


Oakland produced Corvairs up until Aug of 1960...so 5 more months of production after this car was built, they made 140,887 Corvairs in 1960 or 14,189 more after this car.

It’s amazing that they had so many 1961 panels on hand but no 60 front pieces...right?


A few more things...trim tag indicates the car "should" be painted Tasco Turquoise...not "Forest Green" like the ad says...

Car has 1960 engine lid and 1961 trunk lid, front panel, and 61 headlight bezels (so they must have been out of those 60 only parts as well.


It is painfully obvious that this car was not originally built this was and is most likely a survivor of some front end damage that used 1961 donor pieces to repair.

Rick Loving
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Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:05PM

Very informative Rick, as you say , it's being sold by a car salesman. You can tell when their lying by when their lips are moving, in this case typing.

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: gmgmtl ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:23PM

Ray Sego of Heart of America Corvair Association has a 1964 Monza convertible "Punky Sue" with a 1960 front end and trim from all early models. He has driven it to many nationals and local events.
GMoore



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Re: Is this TRUE?
Date: November 19, 2017 05:23PM

I guess they found those front concave sheetmetal parts that went missing back in 1960 and decided to use 'em up on 150 1964 Corvairs, eh? grinning smiley

One nice Corvair Convertible, it is. Way to GO, Ray Sego!


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1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:38PM

Have you ever seen a 1959 Corvair? They only existed in one state, that I know of, New Hampshire. Back in the dark ages, New Hampshire registered cars based on the year that they were manufactured, hence, any Corvair that was manufactured prior to January 1st, 1960, was registered as a 1959. The reasoning behind this is that at the time, there was a tax on cars that was based on the year of manufacture. My 1963 Spyder that I purchased in NH was registered in NH as a 1962. When I brought the car to New Jersey, I had to take it to a state inspection station to have the vehicle verified and the registration changed to reflect that it was a 1963.

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: November 20, 2017 04:47AM

Going O/T. Of course the 60 front ends and trunk lid are cool but the hood with full louvers, not blocked off for spare tire, are especially nifty.
Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com

Re: Is this TRUE?
Posted by: Goop Of Oil ()
Date: November 20, 2017 06:37AM

Quote

ral1963 Wrote:
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> Ahhh...two sayings immediately spring to mind...
>
> "There is a sucker born every minute" and "Caveat
> Emptor"....
>

In this case it is fitting that "Caveat" has the word Cave in it. smiling smiley

Mark Holmlund

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