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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 09, 2017 01:07PM

Hi Rick,
I would ask, but it seems to be a big secret since it wasn't put out there. thus the question for the group.

More or less looking for the perceived devaulation associated with the tag car vs a original COPO car.

Most tag cars it seems are race cars, so that difference may factor into the values also.

Not looking to sell right now, but looking to the future.

Which may come too soon, given the real potential for a near term Wall Street "correction"

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: irvan ()
Date: November 09, 2017 01:59PM

Did the original poster ever sell the cars?

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 09, 2017 02:33PM

Haven't heard anything





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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: November 09, 2017 04:32PM

YS-302 was converted at Yenko Chevrolet in the early 70's. The original body is not a COPO tub. It's VIN is not material to the identity of YS-302.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: zarfnober ()
Date: November 09, 2017 04:37PM

mike, your argument would only make sense if Yenko converted Lakewood’s into Stingers. I think everyone can agree he didn’t.

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: zarfnober ()
Date: November 09, 2017 04:47PM

Mike Stillwell Wrote:
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> YS-302 was converted at Yenko Chevrolet in the
> early 70's. The original body is not a COPO tub.
> It's VIN is not material to the identity of
> YS-302.
>
> Mike
> YS-117

And I would argue that the VIN is material to its identity. Why? If Yenko did the conversion, there is a Yenko buildsheet, which would very likely(or maybe not) have the VIN # on it. Does the builsdsheet still exist? Provenance, provenance, and more provenance.

The collector market will always pay more, the more original a car is. Are there exceptions? Sure, but not many.


I was told earlier today that the tag and all that goes with it sold. Congrats to the new owner.

Rocco

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: November 09, 2017 04:56PM

Yenko build sheet? LOL. Good one Rocco!

Mike
YS-117

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: November 09, 2017 04:59PM

Yenko never built a '65. Are you opposed to Paul's YS-303?

Mike
YS-117

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: November 09, 2017 05:54PM

I wish I could say I was the one to pull the trigger on this one. Rebody or not.

Eric P
DeWitt, IA

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: yenkomark ()
Date: November 09, 2017 06:08PM

On YS 302..no build sheet but I do have correspondence relating to the car from owner to and from Yenko.

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: November 09, 2017 06:56PM

302 was also worked on at Hot Air Enterprises, when it was still orange.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: zarfnober ()
Date: November 10, 2017 04:58AM

Mike Stillwell Wrote:
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> Yenko build sheet? LOL. Good one Rocco!
>
> Mike
> YS-117

And Mark brought up provenance, good. Build sheets exist, and they have tag # and vin #,but you already knew that.

I didn’t say anything negative about the convertible, I really don’t know what you’re getting at here Mike.

I’m gonna buy a convertible Lakewood Rampside Greenbrier 4 door with front loaded rumble seat and put my tag on it.

Lighten up people, it’s a car.

Rocco

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: November 10, 2017 05:23AM

1965 Corvair 2 dr coupes were converted using purchased kits from Don Yenko.
Mostly race cars

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 10, 2017 05:34AM

Remind me to never buy a Stinger!!! smiling bouncing smileysmiling bouncing smileysmiling bouncing smiley

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: November 10, 2017 05:55AM

If you ever go to buy a Yenko Stinger, just do your homework. Most anomalies (but not all,) have been documented.

As stated before, there are many "variations" of what is a Stinger as well as many levels of how "original" a Stinger is and they all affect price and collectability.

Obviously "most" people immediately just jump to the "core" Stinger, which is original COPO tagged car with original unmolested body/VIN assigned to the Yenko applied tag with all matching paperwork.

However, these cars are the minority as most have been raced and modified and a few of the original COPO car bodies have been lost or rebodied.

Add to it, that after the initial run, Yenko sold tags to be applied to non-COPO cars so "Stingers" could continue racing. These are still Stingers, but a slightly different form...and these come in many levels of "how" much of a Stinger they are based on their provenance and documented history.

The Stinger market is not for all people and "can" be slippery slope of muddled history for some specific YS cars.

I am not a Stinger owner, not a certified Stinger Historian, nor do I think my opinion is the end all answer..it is just my opinion.

Rick Loving
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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: texas yenko dude ()
Date: November 10, 2017 06:46AM

dryenko Wrote:
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> So, if a particular Yenko Stinger , in this case
> Street Stinger YS036 Stg II has all its original
> body and tag, is in quite nice original condition,
> what does this august body of opinion minded folks
> think it might be worth today ??
> Specs :
> Nice running Stage II, balanced, 300 degree Crower
> cam 140 engine, QSB, 389 Posi 2.54 CR Yenko
> transmission transaxle, GM metallic brakes,
> upgraded Bilstein shocks, aluminum drums all
> around and custom ordered Panasport 15 x 7 wheels
> with new tires.
> Retains the back seat for extra passengers.
> No rust. Ever.
> Now, how about a almost identical Yenko "tagged"
> Race car but Stage III engine and fully prepped as
> a SCCA race car to the GCR of 1972, with period
> correct upgrades to the suspension for race track
> use, but with Koni Shocks, and the rest of the
> items listed above. And eligible for Vintage
> racing.
> What would the difference be today??
> Not looking for haters here, but reasoned
> thoughts.


Bob,

If the race car has good history with good log books, I'd say the race car is worth more. History has shown that the Stingers in race trim with history have brought more money by far. 50%-100% more money. Look at where the bidding stopped when Curtis ran 003 thru the auction a few years ago. And that car is a nut and bolt restoration with all NOS everything versus say the sale of 095 twice in the last few years. Street Stingers are just not bringing the money. Curtis is working on getting a SVRA Gold Medallion for 003 which whenever he does decide to sell it, would def broaden the buyers.

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 10, 2017 04:41PM

The Yenko Stinger (YS-116) has been SOLD along with many of the Yenko
parts. The Fitch Sprint with orig. documentation has not been sold, and
we should have pictures this weekend. The Fitch is in Lemont, IL
rccarroll@yahoo.com 708-808-0801

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Re: For Sale: Yenko Stinger #116 and LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: November 11, 2017 09:09AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> Remind me to never buy a Stinger!!! smiling bouncing smileysmiling bouncing smileysmiling bouncing smiley
Stinger guys remind me of Corvette guys.smiling smiley

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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Re: For Sale: LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: November 11, 2017 09:42AM

What?!! I'm saying it's ok to replace a body (with noted decrease in value vs an original tub Stinger) and Corvette guys loose thier lunch if the spark plug wires dates don't match the bud date of the car. Not the same at all!

Mike
YS-117

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Re: For Sale: LM Fitch Sprint
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: November 11, 2017 12:59PM

Your right, not all of you.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

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