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OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 06, 2017 08:55AM

I need to buy a Crimper Tool to do a good amount of rewiring.

What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use? Is it a ratcheting style or not?

Brand name and part number would be helpful to find.

Thank you



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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: November 06, 2017 09:32AM

My crimper is a cheap one, but for wiring work buying one of these automatic strippers makes things so much easier:

[www.amazon.com]

Nick
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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: November 06, 2017 10:19AM

I use a standard Klein crimper similar to this one [www.homedepot.com]
I have had it for years and like it because I am able to get enough leverage to crimp pretty much any kind of connectors.

Lee J

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: November 06, 2017 10:33AM

This is a Vairy tricky question!

In the case of wire crimping "CHEAP" is a dirty word. A badly crimped connection can cause all types of problems, from not working, intermittent failures, and even fire.

I have over a dozen "crimpers" depending on "what" type of wire I want to crimp a certain connector to.

Having been in the electrical/electronic business for over 50 years I have collected quite a collection. In the early years you had to buy a Crimp Tool from the same manufacture as the Connector you were crimping if you wanted it to work.

Currently Paladin makes a set of Crimp Tools with changeable "Die Sets" that will allow you to make "Gas Tite Crimp" on a variety of connectors. These work for wiring connectors like we use in cars as well as a variety of special Dies that work for Coax and connector specific terminals.

Look up Paladin Tools on the Internet. They are the best 'bang for the buck' available today.

JMHO!

Dale cool smiley

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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: john.jackson ()
Date: November 06, 2017 10:40AM

I also use the Klein crimper. I appreciate the long handle for leverage and the wide, padded handle makes it easy on the hands. Some cheaper long handled crimpers have the leverage but have very narrow handles that are a real pain when using.

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool dop you have and use?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 06, 2017 02:50PM

I recently needed to buy a better crimper to crimp those tiny terminals in some water proof auto connectors and on some small LED lights. The LED lights are being used as security alert lights on my 4 wheeler and trunk lighting on the Camaro.

I found these for a good price and they work great,

Insulated Cable Connectors Terminal Ratchet Crimping Wire Crimper Plier Tool Kit
[www.ebay.com]

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2018 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ Z71 Centennial Edition
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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: November 06, 2017 03:11PM

I have a T&B crimper, essentially the same as the Klein that Lee showed from Home Depot. Have used it over 30 years as a maintenance electrician, it's kind of the standard for my industry. I also have the same style tool at home that I bought from Harbor Freight for like $4, it does just as good, may not last through ten thousand crimps like the T&B but didn't cost me $30 and does the job.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: November 06, 2017 03:27PM

I got a Klein crimper per Craigs suggestion when I bought one of his replacement fuse panels. I can't believe I hadn't gotten one sooner!

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: November 06, 2017 04:04PM

Mine is a military crimper, and it has a label on it, not to use after Dec 1941. Even more than 75 years ago, even tools had a end of useful service date on them. Still works fine for me.

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: Melb-Mike ()
Date: November 06, 2017 04:23PM

Although it is a hassle, I like soldering the wire to the terminal and then using shrink tubing to insulate it. It is very time consuming but it's not likely to come apart or lose contact even if water comes into play. I only do that for important electrical circuits like ignition.

When it comes to crimp connectors, what is possibly more important than the crimper would be the quality of the terminals you're using. Some of the Chinese stuff is marginal at best. I like Dell City supplies and they are only a little more expensive.

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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: November 06, 2017 04:58PM

In order to buy - or suggest - the correct crimping tool, we need to know the type of terminal. If you are crimping any specific terminal type - as in Weatherpack, Metripack (150 or 280), you need a very specific tool to do a professional crimp. If you are just roll-crimping a U-shaped terminal, then size matters (doesn't it always). There are some specialized tools that make life easier. Most of the tools will crimp several sized terminals, since they have several different jaws, in one tool. I have used some Sargent tools for crimping terminals. They build an excellent tool.

Seth Emerson

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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: JamesD ()
Date: November 06, 2017 07:11PM

As Dale said, certain connectors require specific tools.  There's no getting around that.

For general use, I like my Pressmaster crimp tool.

The frame looks like this.




It's a ratcheting frame, and uses interchangeable dies like this one.



I like the Swedish-made dies better than the German ones, but they're all good.  The fit and finish of the Swedish dies is impeccable.

One caveat is that the wire size and terminal must be correct.  There's no "fudging" like you can do with a simple set of pliers.

I'm pretty sure that Waytek sells a rebranded version of this tool.

I can't tell the difference in crimp quality between this and a Rennsteig crimper.

If you're out in the field, and have to make a crimp or three, it's hard to beat a set of T&B pliers in the hands of someone that knows how to use them.  But the best T&B crimp will always lose a tug-of-war to a calibrated good crimp on the other end of a piece of wire.

James
'65 Corsa 4-speed, '65 Corsa V8                                                       Santa Clarita, CA.
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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: November 06, 2017 08:04PM

SO, is the OP crimping typical plastic (vinyl or nylon) insulated connectors, or more exotic terminals like "open barrel" (aka Molex, etc, as shown in James' picture above), or even more exotic like round barrel terminals that need the 8 indentations, like aerospace connectors (typical military circular connectors), or standard old non-insulated round barrel terminals?

Then there is coax.... and the RJ-11, 12, 22, 45 phone company plastic plugs.

For most of the above I bought into the Ideal Crimpmaster [30-500, etc] years ago and collected many dies (looks like Al Lane's picture, but way more money grinning smiley). This will not do the 8 indentation, for those I use the DMC tool line (AF8, AFM8 with lots of turrets and positioners). I also have many of the single purpose TE Connectivity crimpers (bought used not new!eye popping smiley). And of course, the T&B Sta-Kon crimpers mentioned many times above.

For typical insulated terminals, the Crimpmaster wins in quickness, as it does both the wire and insulation crimps at the same time. I do have the Harbor Freight version also. Sometimes the HF version does not crimp deep enough and the wire will pull out. No mater what crimper you use for these terminals, you should pull hard on the wire and make sure it does not pull out!smileys with beer

So, OCG, what terminals?confused smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 04:59AM

This is GREAT guys! I have 8 new post to read through.

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool dop you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 05:34AM

Lane66m Wrote:
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> I recently needed to buy a better crimper to crimp
> those tiny terminals in some water proof auto
> connectors and on some small LED lights. The LED
> lights are being used as security alert lights on
> my 4 wheeler and trunk lighting on the Camaro.
>
> I found these for a good price and they work
> great,
>
> Insulated Cable Connectors Terminal Ratchet
> Crimping Wire Crimper Plier Tool Kit
> [www.ebay.com]



Hey AL,

tlooks like a nice set for the price. I have a question.

Did yours come from China? I don't mean made there. I see they are made there. I mean did you have to order them from a person or company in China and wait on them to arrive?

I looked at 3 Ebay ads and they were all shipped from China.

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 05:36AM

The Stig Wrote:
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> I got a Klein crimper per Craigs suggestion when I
> bought one of his replacement fuse panels. I can't
> believe I hadn't gotten one sooner!


Thank you. I had hoped Craig would chime in, with all the wiring work he has done.
This is helpful..

Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: red monza ()
Date: November 07, 2017 05:54AM

I have wired 3 street rods from scratch, no kits...all with air, power window, etc and all worked great. These tools were used in all three as you can tell from the photos. They were bought in the early 90's and last used 2 days ago on my 64 conv tail light wiring.

The Klein? yellow handle one came from Lowe's. It has been flawless from day one and never has been sharpened, etc. The other one has the name "OEM INDUSTRIAL"...I think it came from Lowe's also.It crimps connectors great everytime...notice the square crimping area. I have another one but not nearly as good at crimping as this one and has a rounded crimping area.

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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 06:21AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> SO, is the OP crimping typical plastic (vinyl or
> nylon) insulated connectors, or more exotic
> terminals like "open barrel" (aka Molex, etc, as
> shown in James' picture above), or even more
> exotic like round barrel terminals that need the 8
> indentations, like aerospace connectors (typical
> military circular connectors), or standard old
> non-insulated round barrel terminals?
>
> Then there is coax.... and the RJ-11, 12, 22, 45
> phone company plastic plugs.
>
> For most of the above I bought into the Ideal
> Crimpmaster [30-500, etc] years ago and collected
> many dies (looks like Al Lane's picture, but way
> more money grinning smiley). This will not do the 8
> indentation, for those I use the DMC tool line
> (AF8, AFM8 with lots of turrets and positioners).
> I also have many of the single purpose TE
> Connectivity crimpers (bought used not new!eye popping smiley).
> And of course, the T&B Sta-Kon crimpers mentioned
> many times above.
>
> For typical insulated terminals, the Crimpmaster
> wins in quickness, as it does both the wire and
> insulation crimps at the same time. I do have the
> Harbor Freight version also. Sometimes the HF
> version does not crimp deep enough and the wire
> will pull out. No mater what crimper you use for
> these terminals, you should pull hard on the wire
> and make sure it does not pull out!smileys with beer
>
> So, OCG, what terminals?confused smiley


Frank,

Because I have arthritis and what you said in your last statement is why I want to go with a ratcheting style crimper. That way I am sure it will lock down and crimp the connector as tight as it can go - every time!

BTW - For those interested. I will be using non-insulated connectors and shrink tubing.
I have picked out a heat gun and reflector I want, to help shrink the tubing.
I found White beg board in 4X8 sheets for my story board. But we have had way too much rain to go get them.
I've spoken with Craig about the label wires I will need.
However, like most car guys experience; funds are low right now. So it is taking longer to put this project into action, than I would like.
But then again we do have very long and cold winters. Making for a Great indoor project. Grin



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Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 07, 2017 06:46AM

Tony:

Check out the link I have in my post. The reason I bought them were they were in the USA.



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Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2018 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ Z71 Centennial Edition
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: OT - What kind of Crimper Tool do you have and use?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 07:39AM

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