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66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: October 31, 2017 03:41PM

Very desirable car. If it was closer I would take a serious look.
Jeff

[pittsburgh.craigslist.org]

Wildomar,Ca

1965 Corsa Hard Top
!965 Corsa Convertible
1968 Monza 140 Convertible 4 speed
1966 435 HP Crown
1986 Buick GN

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: October 31, 2017 04:16PM

Wow, from what I can see from the ad, this car appears to be significantly under priced, regardless of whether it is "numbers matching' or not! Someone should go have a look ASAP and maybe get a screaming deal.



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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: gnrand ()
Date: October 31, 2017 05:47PM

Yes, if it were closer I would be there with cash in hand.
Jeff

Wildomar,Ca

1965 Corsa Hard Top
!965 Corsa Convertible
1968 Monza 140 Convertible 4 speed
1966 435 HP Crown
1986 Buick GN

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: October 31, 2017 07:41PM

Underpriced? I'd say no, but fair price. Lots of wrong parts, interior is good but worn, trunk lid fit is poor... Wonder why? No mention of the motor or turbo being rebuilt. No shots of the door jambs, floors of trunk pan. A lot of unknowns for calling it underpriced!

Mike
YS-117

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: October 31, 2017 10:08PM

Mike Stillwell Wrote:
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> Underpriced? I'd say no, but fair price. Lots of
> wrong parts, interior is good but worn, trunk lid
> fit is poor... Wonder why? No mention of the motor
> or turbo being rebuilt. No shots of the door
> jambs, floors of trunk pan. A lot of unknowns for
> calling it underpriced!
>
> Mike
> YS-117


Um - that's why I qualified my statement with "from what I can see". Any potential buyer would need to look at the car more closely.

If it is a true 66 Corsa turbo convertible, it is worth over the current asking price as long as it is driveable and not rusted beyond economic repair.



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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: November 01, 2017 05:28AM

I'd say the price is about right considering this one was listed several times and didn't go [m.ebay.com]

Lee J

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: November 01, 2017 08:48AM

Either the car in the ebay listing is a different car or it was painted between the two ad's. ebay is blue and the Craigs list car is red.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
1968 Monza Parts for now

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: November 01, 2017 09:03AM

BobV66Vair Wrote:
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> Either the car in the ebay listing is a different
> car or...

It's a different car. The ebay link was posted as an example of another 66 Corsa vert that did not sell at a comparable asking price.


Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 140 4-speed
65 Corsa 140 4-speed
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 455 Toro V8
65 Monza 110 Convertible
65 Monza 4DR 140 PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T w/5-speed




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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: November 01, 2017 09:46AM

The problem here keeping the value down and no sale is both of these cars are Aztec Bronze.

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: November 01, 2017 10:00AM

I disagree. Aztec Bronze is one of the most rare, sought-after colors.

I think the problem is that the ad doesn't show or give enough info. No door-jamb photos, no under carriage, no description of the quality of the restoration, condition of the paint, no mention of any past rust repair, no close-ups of the interior upholstery... ETC.

The problem is, if there is a bunch of rust and/or bondo lurking underneath, this car is actually more expensive/difficult to restore than a basket-case car.

The additional value a car like this has over a project car is that it is driveable now. If someone is looking for a restoration candidate, this one might be a very poor option.

On the other hand, if I was within a reasonable driving distance, I would be ALL OVER this car, but I would need to check it out carefully to fill in all those information gaps. IF it doesn't need to be stripped and redone, it could be a very good buy, IMO.

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 01, 2017 10:03AM

flat_six Wrote:
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> The problem here keeping the value down and no
> sale is both of these cars are Aztec Bronze.

I don't really think so.
I would rather have Aztec Bronze, than Baby Crap Green!
Color can be changed.
There has to be other factors involved.

.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: November 01, 2017 10:08AM

The problem with the Ebay car is that it is a PROJECT. The guy is clear about that in the ad. He is saying there are $3,000 worth of parts or whatever, but we all know that nobody will value the car the same way that guy is doing the math.

I have a bunch or parts that cost me several thousand dollars that are waiting to go on my Spyder. How many of you would give me the "retail" value of my parts if I was trying to dump them.

A project car that needs a complete restoration... plus a pile of parts "worth $3,000" is not worth what the guy was asking.

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: November 01, 2017 11:42AM

I was being a bit sarcastic on my comment on the Aztec Bronze. I don't care for that color, but others do really like it.

Yes the EBAY car is a project. Who know if the parts are really worth $3k? Not surprised that car has not sold at that price.

The Pittsburgh car - has anyone looked at it? I'm really curious if it's the real deal and whether it has any scary rust or collision repair issues.

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: November 01, 2017 11:49AM

My point was just because it is a turbo convertible doesn't mean it is automatically worth $15k or $20k. The car is located in Western Pennsylvania. Those of you familiar with east coast cars knows that rust is a big issue.
Besides, you have not seen the body tags or anything else.
Looking at it, yes it might be worth $8500. It also looks to have hardly any options on it. But would you pay $8500 for it if it needed pillars and rockers or other repairs?
People are getting jaded with these concourse cars selling for $20k plus.
Just because a car sold at Barret Jackson for $20k does not mean the realistic street value is $20k.
Sometimes you have to be realistic. Caveat Emptor!

Lee J

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: November 02, 2017 08:43AM

So I contacted the seller and I got this, plus a bunch of pictures:

"I’ve had the car for 17-18 years and was painted shortly i I got it. No major damage as far as I know. There was a little rust repair around the windshield cowl and if I remember between the passenger door and rear wheel. Haven’t driven the car for over 2 1/2 years, didn’t put gas back in after I had the carb rebuilt."


I can forward the photos to anyone who wants them - PM your email address.

There was nothing terribly alarming that I could see. Some rust at the lower pinch weld on the rockers. Rest of undercarriage/trunk looks pretty solid.

I'll ask for pics or info from the body plate.

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: bbakerga ()
Date: November 02, 2017 08:58AM

Did he send you any pictures of the front seats? Did he give any idea of their condition?

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: November 02, 2017 01:13PM

I've already emailed these to some of you, but I figured out how to post an album, so here:

[imgur.com]



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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: November 02, 2017 01:20PM

Not a great paint job. They painted over the strikers, door wedges, screws and no coverage on the bottom of the rockers.

Lee J

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: flat_six ()
Date: November 02, 2017 01:42PM

gnvair Wrote:
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> Not a great paint job. They painted over the
> strikers, door wedges, screws and no coverage on
> the bottom of the rockers.


Tough crowd!

Wiper blades, wheel covers, wheel opening trim, carpeting, paint over spray - all easily corrected. Most of us have those parts in our stash.

I'm waiting for body and VIN tag info. If it's genuine, it sure would be worth looking at for someone who is looking for a turbo convertible - that is if they can figure out how to remove the horn button, rotate it 180 degrees, and reinstall it...

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Re: 66 Turbo Convertible FS (not mine)
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: November 02, 2017 02:18PM

"I’ve had the car for 17-18 years and was painted shortly i I got it. No major damage as far as I know. There was a little rust repair around the windshield cowl and if I remember between the passenger door and rear wheel. Haven’t driven the car for over 2 1/2 years, didn’t put gas back in after I had the carb rebuilt."

1) It is an 18 year old paint job and from the other photos, it wasn't
a professional paint job. The underside of the rockers weren't even painted.
It looks real good in photos, but is probably a 10 footer.

2) "No major damage as far as I know" - kind of a cop out statement, you
need to check for yourself in person.

3) "Has little rust repair" - From the photos the rust repair around the
windshield needs to be redone and it still has other rust areas (possibly
minor) addressed. But that would also mean you'd need to repaint.

4) Don't know and can't tell by the photos what condition the interior is in.

5) It is good that he didn't put gas back in the car before he stored it for
2 1/2 years. But if I were a buyer, I'd want to hear it run. In my opinion,
if it isn't running, then this car isn't worth the asking price.
You don't know what condition the engine is in, and how much you'll need
to spend to get it right.

6) This is just my opinion, but the max price I'd pay would be in the $4,000 to
$4,500 range. MAYBE a $1,000 more IF the VIN and Body tag information match up.


Tom Cepak
Fort Worth, TX



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