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torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: October 26, 2017 11:41AM

Well I'm finally at the point of installing my new drive train into my 60, but have a question?

I have 3 torque shafts and have checked them all to pick the best one. The one I'm planning to use has the best clean bushings in the ends of the shaft. But I'm wondering if I can polish the areas where the outer bushings run on the torque shaft. Such as a really fine sandpaper, emery cloth or scotch bright with a little oil.

The old shaft had one area, on the torque converter end was not shinny clean.

Now there is no nicks or anything like that but just want it nice and clean before I install it.

Also I've never completely emptied a pg transmission. Is there a special method to add fluid in it before I install all this in the car. I've got a new torque converter which needs some fluid before installing. I want to run this engine before I install it to check for any leaks from all the new seals and gaskets.

Do I start it up on the floor and then put in the transmission fluid or do I try and add some fluid before I start it. I can't imagine that i can get 5 quarts of automatic transmission fluid in without it running.

Like I said, I've never completely drained a transmission before and don't want to mess it up trying to add fluid.

Thanks so much, and I have been reading but not posting for sometime now. Work on the new drive train has been slow, just been having a lot going on and haven't been able to work on it much. Doc has changed some of my meds and I don't feel like spending time in the shop now.

Thanks so much!

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!



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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 26, 2017 11:49AM

Just put in what it will take...

Start engine and add some more....

After a 20 minute run at 2,000 rpm if it's a rebuild or as soon as you can get the idle down under 800 rpm.... then fill to the ADD mark....

Do not forget to plug the shift cable hole and watch the axle stubs... they can slip out.





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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: October 26, 2017 12:10PM

Thanks Matt. I actually called the shaft torque shaft but it is turbine shaft. I was just looking up the bolt torque for the top cover on the differential and noticed I miss named the shaft.

Thanks on adding the fluid.

Any opinion on polishing up the turbine shaft?

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: October 26, 2017 04:08PM

I guess no one has any suggestions on polishing the turbine shaft on a pg transmission.

I know a lot of you guys drive a stick and may not know.

I was hoped to get the torque converter installed so I can get the transaxle bolted to the engine.

I don't see an issue polishing it up, but would like to make sure so I can finish this tomorrow.

Hope everyone has a wonderful evening!

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 26, 2017 04:55PM

GWLee Wrote:
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> I guess no one has any suggestions on polishing
> the turbine shaft on a pg transmission.
>
> I know a lot of you guys drive a stick and may not
> know.
>
> I was hoped to get the torque converter installed
> so I can get the transaxle bolted to the engine.
>
> I don't see an issue polishing it up, but would
> like to make sure so I can finish this tomorrow.
>
> Hope everyone has a wonderful evening!


Well, you posted that at 3:08 pst.
Most of us West Coast Guys are just now preparing to get off work.
You should have a reply by someone who knows here in another hour or two.
Give em a chance to get home and relax a minute.smiling smiley

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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: 7004doorL ()
Date: October 26, 2017 05:16PM

May I suggest the finest Scotch-Brite pad and Kerosene to brighten the Turbine Shaft?

I would think Emery Paper is to aggressive.

Unlike sandpaper the Scotch-Brite does not remove a lot of metal.

Even fine sandpaper done with fingers could leave grooves.

I think you could fill the transmission with the powerpack in the car and the axles connected. You want to drive it anyway.

Start by running it without driving it and shifting through the gears but checking the dipstick frequently.

The quantities of ATF are known. Add a little at a time until Full Hot.
And keep count of Quarts used.

Mike
1960 4 Door
80 HP PG

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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: 7004doorL ()
Date: October 26, 2017 05:27PM

Hello Lee,

Addendum:

According to my 1960 Shop Manual for the Automatic Transmission it's:

Dry... Approx. 13 Pints

Refill...Approx. 6 Pints.

Mike
1060 4 Door
80 HP PG

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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: October 26, 2017 07:29PM

You can polish the shaft with what you have and then lightly wire brush the area with a wire wheel. If you want new bushings for the inside of the turbine shaft I can send you a couple. I think they are $4-5 ea.

BTW, I am just in from the shop!

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com



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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: October 26, 2017 07:48PM

Be very careful not to run it too low. You can burn up a converter bushing in a few seconds.
I use Dexron VI in mine.



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Re: torque shaft for pg? And transmission fluid?
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: October 27, 2017 08:25AM

Thanks so much everyone for the info and help. I was going to try and respond individualy to each of you, but it is hard to do on a cell phone.

Ken sorry your day was so long. The last post I made was 7:08pm my time and you posted you had just came in at 10:08pm my time. Sounds like the days I had working at UPS for 30 years. The shaft I'm using has perfect bushings so I should be good to go, but the others where probably useable but I wanted the best I had. So I am good on that. Thanks for the offer.


Everyone else I do thank you and sorry if I seemed to be impatient.

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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