Corvair DiagramCorvair Photo
Corvair Center
home forum corvairs calendar links Corvair Podcast
California Corvairs
Clarks Corvair
Clarks Corvair
“Performance
“CORSA"



Chevy Corvair License Plate
Chevy Corvair Chrome Wheel
Corvair Center Forum :  Corvair Center Phorum The fastest message board... ever.
Corvair Center 
Pages: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2
OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: eddieb ()
Date: October 24, 2017 07:19AM

I've struck out finding a garage for at least one of my Vairs so I thought of buying a closed trailer for at least temporary storage for my GB until it sells. I can then use it as a trailer if I need to transport one of my '60's somewhere.
Need opinions on what to look for. Remember this will only be used to transport Vairs nothing else so the smaller the better. Was thinking of either an 7'X16' or 8.5X16'. Your thoughts always welcome. EddieB Dade City,Fl

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 24, 2017 11:37AM

7-foot width probably does not offer enough rear door width to get a car in. I almost purchased a 7' trailer (had even paid the cash) and as we were unloading the seller's stored items things started to look narrower and narrower. I measured the door opening and got the width of my Skylark off the interenet; lo and behold, the door opening was about 2" too narrow, not to mention the narrow width between the wheel wells.

16' length could be an issue too. If you're going to load forward, you need to get the rear "way in" so the engine weight is almost over the rear axle. I've had a 20 flat nose and a 24 V-nose (really a 20) and in both cases I have to load with about 4' clear behind the car to get the tongue weight where is must be. One time I loaded my '60 (shell with engine) about a foot from the rear door and the rig was dangerously unstable; it was wagging and throwing my Duramax crew cab all over the place. You need extra length to get the weight right.

IMO, the ideal minimum trailer is an 8x20' with a winch to load. (ATV winch is fine)

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2017 11:42AM by cnicol.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: October 24, 2017 01:49PM

I would go with a 24' enclosed car hauler. It may seem like overkill now, but you never know; larger cars might be in your future.

I used my enclosed trailer as a garage last winter and it worked out just fine.

The tight fitting doors keep rodents and moisture out.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: October 24, 2017 06:28PM

As long as you have enough truck...more is always better with trailers.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 24, 2017 06:32PM

I agree with Phil.
Besides, it is easier to find a buyer for a larger trailer than one that is on the smaller size.

.
-----------------------------------------------
WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: October 24, 2017 06:53PM

There is a factory in Georgia that has some good prices, saw them on CL or eBay one.

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: eddieb ()
Date: October 25, 2017 05:13AM

Thanks for all the info,no decision made yet. Will be using my 2011 Dodge 1500 with a 4.7 engine to pull it. It did excellent with a U-Haul last year.That trailer place in GA is a Big Tex dealership. Later. Eddieb Dade City,Fl

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: Demon-Xanth ()
Date: October 25, 2017 07:07AM

Three words:
WORKING trailer brakes.

...I know all too well what happens when one of those words is missing.

'61 Monza 900, 3 speed. Roams the streets of soon to be Stafford, Va
Cars need to drive to be alive. One that never leaves the garage may be perfect, but dead.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: October 25, 2017 07:21AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> As long as you have enough truck...more is always
> better with trailers.


^^Best advice here.

Nick
_______________________________________________________________________
1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Northern Colorado, USA

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: October 25, 2017 07:28AM

Do you have a place to store the trailer? In Fort Worth, storage places charge
around $70 a month just to park one outside on their lot.


Tom Cepak
Fort Worth, TX

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: gmgmtl ()
Date: October 25, 2017 08:31AM

If you get a 24" trailer make sure it has 10,000 lb axles. My 24' enclosed trailer is used as a shed when not hauling.
GMoore

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: October 25, 2017 10:18AM

My Hallmark 20 foot was a great "parked" garage. WARNING - putting a car into an enclosed trailer will perform a disconnect between you and the car. It can lead to ignoring the vehicle. The car will not call your name and it will not ask you to work on it.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: moomba32 ()
Date: October 25, 2017 12:29PM

[charleston.craigslist.org]

This is the place I was thinking of. 8.5x24 for $3950

Don Marlowe
66 Monza 2Dr 140/pg
64 Spyder convertible now, 110/pg
Eutawville SC

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: October 25, 2017 12:54PM

moomba32 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> [charleston.craigslist.org]
> osed-cargo-trailer/6360249995.html
>
> This is the place I was thinking of. 8.5x24 for
> $3950

How are they making those trailers that cheap? Are they importing Chinese laborers?


Tom Cepak
Fort Worth, TX

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: schuls1 ()
Date: October 25, 2017 01:16PM

I tow using an enclosed 8.5' X 24', 10K lb. torsion axle trailer, and use a winch to load the car in forward. Tows OK.

Also, I prefer the convex roof, vs. flat roof, for snow and water runoff.

Stan,
Southwest Missouri
CORSA/GCCG/ACC

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: EM-racer ()
Date: October 26, 2017 01:22PM

I ordered my trailer special for my Fitch Sprint,18X8 ft and 1 foot shorter in height From Pace American and it was fine until I got a little older !! I should have ordered a side door for entering the car and a front hatch to hook up the straps ( not much room when you are older and brittle ) Sold it with the Sprint to a younger Jeff Kent.
Gene Barr
Eustis, Fl.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: October 26, 2017 07:01PM

The first thing I would do is measure the height of your Green Brier. I don't think it will fit in any enclosed trailer.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 26, 2017 08:58PM

rowin4 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The first thing I would do is measure the height
> of your Green Brier. I don't think it will fit in
> any enclosed trailer.

Good thought, Rowin4.

I've transported Greenbriers and Rampsides in my enclosed trailer but it's full height.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

Attachments:
Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 26, 2017 09:36PM

One thing that comes to mind: Brakes!

My first enclosed was a lightweight model, 8.5x20. It only had brakes on one of its 3500# axles. This two-brake system was inadequate and unsafe. Even with the controller on maximum you had to two-foot the truck to stop with a Corvair in the trailer.

My current enclosed is an 8.5x24 V-nose heavyweight monster that weighs about 2000# more than the first one. This one has brakes on both of its 5500# axles. With the brake controller set to mid-scale, a loaded trailer is not noticeable during braking. If I set the controller higher, the trailer will help stop my 7200# crewcab!

If I had kept the lightweight (I was on the fence), I would have added brakes to the second axle.

Here's a picture of the "Carson" brand lightweight; which was great except for the brakes.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

Attachments:
Options: ReplyQuote
Re: OT--sort off,enclosed trailer
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: October 27, 2017 02:06PM

Remember rule number one is - you can never overbuild your rig. In other words, buy the biggest truck and trailer your budget can afford. And don't skimp on the extras. You will be much happier in the end.

I always used a 3/4 ton Suburban and a 24 foot trailer. Also four wheel electric trailer brakes and the best sway control hitch Reese makes are must-have items. And keep the tie-downs simple but effective. I used straps that I'd fasten on the lower control struts just as the car's rear wheels topped the ramp door, the drove it forward until they were tight (they were pre-set to the proper length). Then simply crawl under the front end and throw straps over the lower suspension arms, then snug it down.

For the ultimate trailer, my Eclipse trailer obsoleted ALL box trailers in existance. One-piece aerodynamic fiberglass shell set on an aluminum frame with a drawbridge rear door. Weighed less than a Corvair, only lost 1 1.5 mpg, and towed like it wasn't there. Plus maintenance was almost zero. I'll post pictures in the next posting.

-Mark

Options: ReplyQuote
Pages: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
This forum powered by Phorum.