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hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 12, 2017 07:11PM

Here is an interesting one.eye popping smiley
Guy keeps stating that the "Status is CLEAN".
Just wondering, does that mean both V.I.N.'s are clean?smiling bouncing smiley
I am guessing that he does not know about the second V.I.N.
I would hate to even think about the can of worms you would be opening if you tried to bring this automotive version of Frankenstein's Creature across the border!
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=> CL- Twin V.I.N. Nightmare <=

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: October 12, 2017 09:00PM

For "piece of mind" it's worth it (?). Now for a peace of my heart, I am just not sure.

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: solo2r ()
Date: October 12, 2017 09:09PM

Well, the front of car and the drivers door are there. Thats all is needed if that is the original door and the tag is still there, right?

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 12, 2017 09:45PM

solo2r Wrote:
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> Well, the front of car and the drivers door are
> there. Thats all is needed if that is the original
> door and the tag is still there, right?


OH! Yes, you are correct.
I was not thinking at all.
It has been a while since I have owned an Early.
I was thinking of the LM with the V.I.N. on the rear frame rail.
Still, I would always be nervous if I owned that car.
You would always wonder just how good of a welder that guy is!

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 12, 2017 10:08PM

No VIN on an LM tail.... Fisher Body tag... just like earlies...

LM hidden VIN is right side behind Front upper control arm

EM's are left front frame rail right behind suspension...


let'ssee if I got that right!!! gg





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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 12, 2017 11:10PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> No VIN on an LM tail.... Fisher Body tag...
> just like earlies...
>
> LM hidden VIN is right side behind Front upper
> control arm
>
> EM's are left front frame rail right behind
> suspension...
>
>
> let'ssee if I got that right!!! gg

Sorry Matt, I guess I did not word that clearly.
I said "on the rear frame rail," but was actually meaning the rear side rail by the battery.

When I made the original post, I was thinking of the hidden V.I.N. at the front, and thinking that Earlies had the visible one in the same position as a LM.
That is not correct and I know better, but was just not thinking too deeply about it.
I was just too busy thinking about the trouble it could cause having 2 different numbers on one car.

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: October 13, 2017 04:15AM

The hidden vin on the left front and the visible vin is on the rear drivers post and should be spot welded on! I see two different colors there so there still could be 2 different vins!

The vin is NOT on the driver's door, it is on the rear door jamb under the striker plate.

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 13, 2017 07:57AM

OOPs!!





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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: corvairsince70 ()
Date: October 13, 2017 11:57AM

What would one do in this scenario. You have a damaged LM and for repairs you have to change to front rail that contains the hidden VIN. If you replace it with a donor, now the car has 2 different VINs. What is the opinion on this?

Dennis
Nashville area
'68 Conv 140 PG
'66 Corsa Conv 180
'66 Corsa 140

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 13, 2017 12:21PM

If you are Not out to defraud anyone in the future you remove the wrong hidden vin and replace with new unstamped metal and photograph the repair... the whole car and the Rear visible VIN and Fisher Body tag..

If you do this with your phone or Digital camera.... DATE is embedded in the photo itself..





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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: glivorsi ()
Date: October 13, 2017 03:32PM

Looks like a lot of work to rebuild a relatively common version.

Greg in Wildwood, MO (part of the St. Louis urban sprawl)

1965 Monza Vert 110PG, Crocus Yellow with black interior and top

2006 Mazdaspeed 6
1997 Honda CBR1100XX

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 13, 2017 10:21PM

glivorsi Wrote:
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> Looks like a lot of work to rebuild a relatively
> common version.

Yes, but I constantly run into people that believe that Corvairs are "Extremely Rare" and "hard to come by".
This guy probably thought so too.
Or, maybe he just had too much time on his hands during last winters multiple snow storms?
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These clowns in PDX, think that they are sitting on a very rare car that is worth a Gold Mine!
> CL Monza <
They have been trying to sell this car for at least SEVEN YEARS ! ! !
I talked to them about it on two different occasions.
The first time (about 7 years ago) they wanted $3200 for it.
I explained very nicely that it was way too much.
I made them an extremely generous offer considering the cars condition, but the guy told me that he could not sell it for that amount because his brother bought it at the auction for a lot more than my offer.
I then proceeded to tell him that if his brother gave anything over $1500 for it, then he had paid too much!
He then proceeded to let me know where the driveway was.
About 4 years ago, I was driving by and noticed that they still had the car parked in the very back corner of the lot with several years worth of dirt now covering it.
I swung in and politely offered to give them $600 for the privilege of removing that old derelict out of their yard for them. grinning smiley
They proceeded to ignore my quite reasonable offer, and proceeded to insinuate that if I remained on the premises any longer, that I would be risking my very life.hot smiley
The crazy thing is, . . . they were dead serious ! eye popping smiley

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: October 14, 2017 07:26AM

American Mel Wrote:
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> glivorsi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looks like a lot of work to rebuild a
> relatively
> > common version.
>
> Yes, but I constantly run into people that believe
> that Corvairs are "Extremely Rare" and "hard to
> come by".
> This guy probably thought so too.
> Or, maybe he just had too much time on his hands
> during last winters multiple snow storms?
> .
> These clowns in PDX, think that they are sitting
> on a very rare car that is worth a Gold Mine!
> > CL Monza <
> They have been trying to sell this car for at
> least SEVEN YEARS ! ! !
> I talked to them about it on two different
> occasions.
> The first time (about 7 years ago) they wanted
> $3200 for it.
> I explained very nicely that it was way too much.
> I made them an extremely generous offer
> considering the cars condition, but the guy told
> me that he could not sell it for that amount
> because his brother bought it at the auction for a
> lot more than my offer.
> I then proceeded to tell him that if his brother
> gave anything over $1500 for it, then he had paid
> too much!
> He then proceeded to let me know where the
> driveway was.
> About 4 years ago, I was driving by and noticed
> that they still had the car parked in the very
> back corner of the lot with several years worth of
> dirt now covering it.
> I swung in and politely offered to give them $600
> for the privilege of removing that old derelict
> out of their yard for them. grinning smiley
> They proceeded to ignore my quite reasonable
> offer, and proceeded to insinuate that if I
> remained on the premises any longer, that I would
> be risking my very life.hot smiley
> The crazy thing is, . . . they were dead serious !
> eye popping smiley

We have a local vintage car dealer that are well known to be sheisters.
I have looked at many of their cars and they are "mudded" up wrecks.
I drive by their lot all the time in my travels and they have some cars that have been out there for over 10 years! Some people will let a car rot into the ground if they don't get what its worth. I don't get upset about it any more because the way I look at it is as theirs loses value from deterioration, the rest increase in value. Plus one less makes the rest worth more smiling smiley

Lee J

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Re: hot smileyeye rolling smiley> CL - twin V.I.N. Nightmare <confused smileyhot smiley
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 15, 2017 10:54PM

He has created a new posting with more pictures, and a $999 OBO price.
I think he is getting desperate.
Says it must be gone by the end of the month.
I do not know what it is worth, but there appears to be tinted glass with this car, if someone is looking for that.
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>New CL ad with more pictures <

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