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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 07:46AM

You are not "Dumb" you are doing great!! for a novice!!





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:10AM

"for a novice" Like how you add that in........winking smiley
JK.. Thanks for the advice. I'm getting the bushing for the starter endplate. How do you remove the old one?? I cant seem to get it out at all, even with the old grease trick, pack it with grease and press a socket in with a extension in the end. The grease is forced down and has no where to go so it pushes the bushing out, at least its supposed to, well it worked on the pilot bushing on the engine for the vw pilot rod to fit into.

Its fairly old trick and i learned it from my grandpa, its pretty cool, and you have to have heavy duty THICK grease, preferably like wheel bearing or something extreme load bearing grease.

Just thought id share that, and how do you get the old bushing out, i've been following the starter rebuild thread, but the pictures wont load on my computer, maybe someone could save them and post them on here as jpgs or something.

Thanks

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:13AM

Yup great method... or use cheap white bread... less of a mess!

You have to cut the bushing out.... there's no pocket behind it.. why it won't push out..

Was it worn? on one side?





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2017 10:13AM by MattNall.

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:17AM

yup its pretty worn on both sides, got about like 1/16 of an inch of play in the bushing, like you can wiggle the armature back and forth about 1/16" or almost 5/64"

Thanks

Troy W

PS how do you cut it out, and cheap white bread is for eating man, pb and j buddy.

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: thewolfe ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:36AM

White bread is the preferred method of removing the pilot bearing in the crank for me. For that bearing you can try using a tap that's about the right size to cut into it like you're threading a hole. Once it gets down so far it'll start spinning the whole bearing and you can pull it out. That's if there is a tap the right size. I don't know, I'm never removed one of those bearings!

Nate Wolfe
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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:56AM

9/16x18 tap. Usually it will catch the bushing after a couple of turns and just pull out.

best wishes, Steve
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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 09:09AM

ok, is that what you meant by cutting it out? That is MattNall?

Thanks you guys, i dont know if i have a tap that size, but the bushing is pretty tight in there, and the endplate was pretty rusty from sitting outside for 43 yrs until i rescued it and the rest of the engine.

I was thinking something along the lines of a anchor, like a bolt with an expanding piece of metal around it that would grab onto the sides on the bushing from the inside.

Thanks

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 10:17AM

Cutting it out"

I meant use a dremel or a piece of Hacksaw blade...so you can collapse the bushing in the hole and pull it out with needle nose pliers..


Tap will do it as well...


You never use something that pushes out on a bushing... makes it tighter!





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!! / Starter end bushing
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 10:18AM

TroyWidtfeldt Wrote:
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> yup its pretty worn on both sides, got about like
> 1/16 of an inch of play in the bushing, like you
> can wiggle the armature back and forth about 1/16"
> or almost 5/64"
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Then someone turned it 180 deg. years ago.... Trick FIX only works once!! gg





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 10:54AM

i guess, may have been when i cleaned it out, de rusted the feild magnets and the armeture.

Thanks again and i think the tick and the low compression on one cylinder was caused by a badly adjusted exhaust valve, i just tightened the to 0 lash and 1 full rotation, probably the lifter wasnt pumped up i guess, they were new. Ill see what happens now. Once i can turn the engine over with the starter.turns out the offset bushing wasnt properly placed in the transaxle, a little filing so that the starter armeature is completely straight now, and JB weld of course, with aluminium shavings and filings mixed in for extra strenght...winking smiley

thanks

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 01:56PM

Troy... Valve adjustment......

Take the Rocker cover off.... LOOK at each STUD

Are there approx. 2-3 threads showing above the nut?

Are ALL 12 valves the same 2-3 threads?

Please report back...





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: CorvairHaven ()
Date: December 11, 2017 06:58PM

"Once i can turn the engine over with the starter.turns out the offset bushing wasnt properly placed in the transaxle, a little filing so that the starter armeature is completely straight now, and JB weld of course, with aluminium shavings and filings mixed in for extra strenght..."


Starting to sound like danyarger.
Painted cardboard kickpanels, anyone?

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 07:32PM

what or who is "danyarger" is that an insult............winking smiley

what you dont like JB weld, it fixes anything. What are painted cardboard kickpanels?? Is that for a car. are you just trying to say that jb weld with aluminim bits doesnt actually increase its strenght??

Thanks again yall and MattNall ill check it out and get back to you soon....like tommorrow.

Thanks for the advice winking smiley

troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:09PM

Not an insult Dan was a young guy low $$$ and he made do with what he could.... and drove the car! He joined the local CORSA chapter, etc....

But like so many.... he traded the Vair for something totally different... and disappeared!





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 11, 2017 08:21PM

hey im sorry that im young and have my whole life ahead of me, so i really dont want to spend everything i got on my car. You gotta do what you gotta do, and when you have to file, and jb weld, you have to file and jb weld.

Thanks again, i wasnt clear on what that meant, and you can rest assured i wont be getting rid of the car anytime soon, or driving it for that matter....jk

Thanks

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: December 11, 2017 10:33PM

Troy, I am not sure what the big deal is all about.

Early model Corvairs ALL came from the factory WITH CARD-BOARD KICKPANELS ! ! !

JB weld IS great stuff!

I have some on one of my Vairs too!

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 12, 2017 05:18AM

Haha, thanks for the back up Mel,

Great stuff to use on anything that you need permantly fastened to something without bolts or welding, etc.

Thanks again, ill check on the valves today after school.

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 12, 2017 08:12AM

Ok i didnt check the valve studs, but if i remember right that there was probably 4-5 threads on top of the stud. Does that mean that it is overtightened?
Another problem, i cleaned out the alternator but when i go to hook it up is sparks and melted the wire? There was continuity in the alternator, how hard is that to fix?? I can get a rebuilt alternator from rock auto for 44 dollars including core charge, you get 5 bucks back if you ship them your old aternator, shipping would be more than that.

But i think that i might've overtighened the valves so that could be why there is a loss of compression in one cylinder. Ill definitely check today, but going from memory that is what i did.

What do you guys think i should do, just redo all the valves?

Thanks

Troy W

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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 12, 2017 08:32AM

Back them off to just 2-3 threads showing.....then run it...

yes they are adjusted too far....





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Re: Corvair Engine in a '73 vw bug!!
Posted by: TroyWidtfeldt ()
Date: December 12, 2017 09:12AM

Yup that could be the problem. I just did what the manuals said to do, 0 lash and 1 full turn, maybe that is only for stock lifters, these are aftermarket, not sure what brand isky i think, i dont know if thats possible or not?

How hard is it to rebuild an alternator? Should i just get the remanufactured one?

Troy W

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