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Rebuilt Starter problem!
Posted by: jhs0718 ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:25AM

Last year the my '60 4-Door PG started, ran and drove fine, until the starter went kaplunk. I got a brand new, rebuilt, starter from Clark's and now the rear, is just buzzing very loudly when I turn the key to start it. Sounds like it's coming from the starter. I have a new battery, wiring, solenoid, starter and the ring gear is in surprisingly great shape. Only problem is that the car won't start and it just buzzes like crazy when you try to start it. The dream cruise is next weekend and I'd really love to take her for a spin down Woodward for my first time! Please help!

Thanks,
Joshua Saarela



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2017 01:25PM by MattNall.

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Re: Starter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:30AM

Tap the starter solenoid area while in starter is powered. Might be a sticking solenoid.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Starter
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:31AM

Sounds like a bad starter rachet drive..... get with Clarks!! AND your local club members to be sure you are able to drive next weekend!

It may be something else and an experience person is worth a 1000 pictures..





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Re: Starter
Date: August 12, 2017 10:32AM

You may just have a problem with connections.
The battery clamps often will build up corrosion inside where you can't see it and that will cause enough resistance that the starter solenoid cannot engage.
Take both post clamps off and clean to shiny metal on both the post and the inside of the clamp.
They make a special wire brush battery terminal cleaner for this purpose.
Available at most auto supply stores


Dan Davis - Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ 65 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn (my current driver!!)
~ 1964 Monza 'Vert ~ 65 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black int ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4
1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Starter
Posted by: squirrel ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:32AM

Can you turn the engine by hand?

Do you have a test light, and know now to use it?

Jim Forbes.......63 Monza coupe......Sierra Vista, AZ


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Re: Starter
Posted by: jhs0718 ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:44AM

The engine turns fine by hand and the ring gear moves perfectly and looks perfect as well.

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Re: Starter
Posted by: jhs0718 ()
Date: August 12, 2017 10:52AM

I think I will just go buy some new battery clamps and see if that works! The battery is fine so maybe it is those clamps.

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Re: Starter
Date: August 12, 2017 11:03AM

Better investment would be a new Cable with a proper cast terminal end.
The replacement ends that squeeze the stripped wires down with a clamp are poor connectors as corrosion builds up in that area, too.


Dan Davis - Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ 65 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn (my current driver!!)
~ 1964 Monza 'Vert ~ 65 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black int ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4
1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Starter
Posted by: squirrel ()
Date: August 12, 2017 11:43AM

After you try to start it, use an IR temp gun and see which connection is hot. Or use your fingers to find it, but dont' get burned!

Jim Forbes.......63 Monza coupe......Sierra Vista, AZ


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Re: Starter
Posted by: jhs0718 ()
Date: August 12, 2017 12:13PM

Clark's has the spring end and the non-original battery cable connectors, which one of those would be the best? Also could my spark plugs have gone bad? I know those can screw up the starting?

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Re: Starter
Date: August 12, 2017 12:42PM

Spring end are more for the "Stock Concours" owner. They are original style.
The style with a bolt are just fine.

Pull your spark plugs and then try to "turn the engine over" with the starter.
That will be much easier on the starter motor, if that is your problem you will need another rebuild!

The plugs don't usually just "go bad". If they are fouled, you should see crud and blackness around the snout. Normal plugs working fine will be a light tan color on the snout and the metal tang will be clean.


Dan Davis - Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ 65 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn (my current driver!!)
~ 1964 Monza 'Vert ~ 65 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black int ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4
1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Starter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 12, 2017 01:24PM

Buzzing and clicking typical of sticking/bad solenoid or bad positve or negative cables or dirty/corroded connections. Troubleshooting is a process of elimination but doing simplest tasks first - connections. Previous maintenance in the area can not be ruled out.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2017 01:30PM by Lane66m.

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Re: Rebuilt Starter problem!
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: August 12, 2017 04:45PM

First, remove the starter from the car and secure it in a vice.

Then use a car battery to actuate the starter; first directly, then through the solenoid.

This should isolate the source of the hum.

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