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FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 12, 2017 05:39AM

OK, I see no interest in ~$2000 FC mats. If I were to repro my NORS FC standard front floor mat, would you buy one?

I think I've figured out how to do this, and the mint NORS mat I have may be the last opportunity to do so since it's flat, whereas used mats (along with usually having damage) have become irreversibly contoured. Obviously being flat is necessary to make a casting.

The NORS mat is essentially identical to the stock mat, except for the embossed pattern. See images below.

I'm anticipating a retail price of around $350 - $400. There will be significant up front costs (with a distinct chance it won't work), the urethane rubber I would use is costly, and then there is the time investment; so I need to know if there are enough FC owners who would buy one (or more) to undertake this.

So post or PM to let me know.

Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 12, 2017 05:49AM

Steve:

My used OEM mat is still available for your use in sample prototyping. Let me know if you wish to use it. I would have to pull rear seats to get it out. One 6 inch tear in right rear corner. Otherwise it is in good shape.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 12, 2017 06:01AM

Hi Al,
I'll let you know. Someone else has a used rear mat already out that should be heading my way. If I can successfully repop the front mat, then I may try the rear mat. Again, the problem is getting one in good enough condition and that can be flattened. The best bet for the rear mats may be repair and patching.
Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 12, 2017 06:28AM

The one in mine is flexible but I would hesitate to roll it up in a small roll to ship. A double thick layered cardboard box to keep it flat would be the best way to ship.

I might be interested in a reasonably priced rubber floor mat for mine, if it is tan. It has a real sloppy black carpet right now.

Al

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: rhysaccess ()
Date: August 13, 2017 12:01AM

Hi Steve,

It's a definite yes from me.

(and thanks for trying to organise it)

Cheers,
Rhys

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 13, 2017 03:23AM

I left a word out of the last line.

I might be interested in a reasonably priced rubber FRONT floor mat for mine, if it is tan. It has a real sloppy black carpet right now.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 13, 2017 03:59AM

Al,
The best I can do is to try to repro the standard black mat. The standard mats were always black, and tan was not an option for mats in deluxe FCs. Making colored mats is a whole 'nother ballgame (especially for a custom color such as tan) because of the need to match a particular shade of the color.

Reasonable price? - I suppose that depends upon what it costs to make a reproduction and what people are willing to pay. My impression so far is that many FC owners would like to have a correct FC floor mat if they can get it relatively inexpensively. Unfortunately, limited run reproductions rarely can be done on the cheap.

Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: August 13, 2017 05:07AM

Matt: I don't think $2000 issue reasonably priced. I paid $300 for a GMC bedmat. So $300 for a similarly sized Greenbrier rear mat is not unexpected. The Greenbrier mat may be thinner but it is more flexible and has a molded texture in it. A front mat around $200 would be reasonable, but not $500.

Too bad there are more owners looking for the GIVEAWAY priced items, like a clock for 1960s price of $25, instead of paying for the currently priced $400 NOS clock. Same price if you factor in inflation/cost of living for the 50 years.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ HP PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 13, 2017 05:48AM

Al,
I agree with everything you said, except a reasonable cost for a repro FC front mat at $200. Is your GMC mat and relative size the right comparison? Was the GMC mat from of a large scale production; i.e. from a mat manufacturer that produces hundreds, and how many people buy them? There are obviously economies of scale.

I hope I estimated the price for a repro front mat on the high side because I don't know what the cost will be until I successfully make one, and I don't know what the scale (number) will be. Unfortunately, so far, there doesn't seem to be much interest among FC owners.

Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: bnoggle ()
Date: August 13, 2017 06:10PM

I would definitely be a buyer for a front mat at a reasonable price. Mine was in pieces the day I got my Rampside, and I have been going without for some time now.

1962 Corvair 95 Rampside
1983 Chevy C-10

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: matchlessmo ()
Date: August 14, 2017 04:10AM

👍count me in...


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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: gmgmtl ()
Date: August 14, 2017 07:28AM

Steve
I'm interested at the $350-$400 pricing. Probably buy 2.
Gary M

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: August 14, 2017 12:06PM

I would be interested in a nice Re-Pop also.
I have the Clarks carpet in my Rampside now. But a nice Black front mat would fit my fancy just fine.
I would like to see some kind of pattern like the OEM. Just a flat plane surface would not work for me.

Corventure Dave

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 14, 2017 12:36PM

Dave,
Look at the image in my first past - is that adequately "like OEM"? The only way to get the the OEM (GM stock) pattern is by using an OEM mat as the template, and so far I have not be able to locate an OEM mat in good enough condition. To replicate the mat, it must be able to be flattened (completely).
Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: August 14, 2017 01:16PM

When I own another Forward Control.

Just a matter of time...I would be in.

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: August 14, 2017 01:44PM

Steve,
The image you posted would be great in my opinion.thumbs up
Would the hole for the clutch pedal be a owner cut-punch out for Std trans?
My Rampside is an automatic.

Corventure Dave

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: Am-Iron ()
Date: August 14, 2017 03:54PM

I would be in. And also for a 64 style if you end up doing those as well.

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 14, 2017 08:04PM

Dave,
Good point about the automatic option; a punch out would make sense.

Allen,
Was the standard FC floor mat different in 64?
Steve

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: funvairs ()
Date: August 15, 2017 05:49AM

The shift lever moved to the floor in the later 63's and 64's

Chris Brown

Central Michigan

Corvanatics Director at Large
Corvanatics Historian
UVMCC Vice President

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Re: FC owners - If I repop the front mat would you buy one?
Posted by: WhenIm64 ()
Date: August 15, 2017 06:12AM

The original question was "If I were to repro my NORS FC standard front floor mat, would you buy one?"

As an FC owner, I have to say "no."

I am confident that it would be a nice product, but even as a guy who likes "stock" I prefer the Clark's carpet and I have removed the stock rubber mat from several FCs, including my current Rampside, in favor of the carpet.

This is just personal preference, but in light of the original question I thought it would be helpful for me to be candid about this.

--Bob


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