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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: October 28, 2018 08:04AM

I used solidworks to design the fan, I don't have the module that has the full on cfd features to do that. I looked into having someone else analyze my design
that way and it was more expensive than it was to have my initial prototypes made.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car



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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: TheRealHip ()
Date: October 28, 2018 08:33PM

No solidworks dealers in your area that would help out.

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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: DAVECS1 ()
Date: November 04, 2018 08:33PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> A Bladed fan is mainly for Pressure..
>
> Our Centrifugal fan is for Flow..
>
> Kevin's fan does both.
>
> I was lucky enough to get paid for working on
> these monsters...
>
> 1st Stage was a wheel like Kevin's [ for suction
> ]
>
> 2nd stage was a wheel like ours...
>
> Very efficient but built like a tractor...
> Caterpillar 5650 3125kw / 4190 SHP
>
> 1st pic is engine setting in Houston warehouse
> after de-commisiong. 2nd is enclosure they were
> in... Hot air leaks left their mark on the Door..

Wow small world. I was asked to design and implement digital controls for that old dog. Testing it was pretty fun. I was able to get the turbine almost transparent with the variable pitch blades. They wanted to know if it could have braking potential. Lol.

1964 Monza Convertible
110 4 speed
Peoria, IL

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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 04, 2018 08:53PM

It is a small World!


That Variable nozzle did brake the power turbine during large off loads!

Great system... but so few parts... they only built 11 for "field trials"....

few spares!





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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: DAVECS1 ()
Date: November 05, 2018 03:36AM

I used the igniter from a chinook helicopter and a secondary steering hydraulic unit from a large wheel loader to start it. In the power generation plant it came from they used compressed air and I think they manually ignited the combustor, as it just ran non stop. In a truck that was not ideal. Had a couple interesting starts and flame outs getting that to work. I believe the one I messed with came out South America. The first time we ran it, it collapssd the intake ducting to the dyno cell.

1964 Monza Convertible
110 4 speed
Peoria, IL

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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: Demon-Xanth ()
Date: November 05, 2018 07:48AM

Just spitballing a thought here, would it be feasible to make one with a large enough center hub to house an electric motor to mount to a flat top cover for a properly spec'ed electric fan arrangement?

'vairless. But not forever.
Cars need to drive to be alive. One that never leaves the garage may be perfect, but dead.

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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: November 05, 2018 07:17PM

A properly spec'ed electric fan will end up very heavy, and big. and to do that
would involve cutting a large hole in the deck lid I'm afraid. If the point is
to de-couple the cooling fan from the engine, a hydraulic drive would be way better and much lighter, but fairly expensive. An efficient enough fan would be
replacing, in effect the water pump and not the radiator fan, and the same
style of drive for the "water pump" should be used, as the coolant and heat demands track engine rpm in a predictable way that is best served by a simple
belt drive.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car



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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: November 19, 2018 08:41PM

I thought I would update this thread a little with a graph showing the horsepower
usage differences between the Nashfan and the Mag fan

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car



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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:16PM

Interesting graph Kevin, . . . .just what are we looking at?
I want to think, it is HP on the Vert., and RPM's on the Hor.
BUT, we all know what happens when you ASSuME things!

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'66 Monza Coupe - 4spd, 140 Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - PG, 140 Daily driver beater

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Re: My New Fan!!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:40PM

graph showing the horsepower usage differences between the Nashfan and the Mag fan





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