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what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: briand ()
Date: June 14, 2017 09:20PM

How can you tell if it is an original?? may be looking at one if still available. Thanks for all information

Brian Dowdy
Orland, CA
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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: June 14, 2017 09:46PM

Which original are you talking about? - 10,000 miles? 30,000 miles? 100,000 miles?

On a low mileage car, you can tell some by looking at the underside - and looking at the interior (if you know the differences in trim / upholstery).

Look at the accelerator pedal / brake / clutch pedal.

Does the carb still have the aluminum tag? Is the part number on the turbo correct? Does the turbo have the correct heat shield?

You have a number of early models, so I assume you are familiar with EMs.

The best is to find a club member who is knowledgeable on EMs - someone who has owned a 62 forever - or restored a 62.

Do not know if the Stock Is group section (CORSA website???) will help.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: June 14, 2017 09:58PM

I will add if you mean "originally" a Spyder optioned Monza from the factory and not a conversion..

You can verify the Spyder option via the Fisher Trim tag in the engine bay..

If it is a Willow Run built car the ACC code would have a letter "D" in the ACC line

If it is a Oakland build, it would have the letter "X" in the ACC line.

These codes represented the addition of RPO 690 Spyder 150 hp Turbo and gage package option to the car.

Rick Loving
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Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd



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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: June 14, 2017 10:35PM

ral1963 Wrote:
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> I will add if you mean "originally" a Spyder
> optioned Monza from the factory and not a
> conversion..
>
> You can verify the Spyder option via the Fisher
> Trim tag in the engine bay..
>

Forgot about the obvious - and all the Spyder conversions

Check the engine block code (YR), also.

Need to recognize repaint / accident repair - given the number of cars I assume you know how to do this.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/2017 10:43PM by RobertC.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: June 15, 2017 04:43AM

Check the casting codes on the engine, trans, diff, steering box and ensure the casting dates match the build date on the body tag. Generally within 2-3 weeks before the body tag date. This would suggest original parts.

Google "Corvair Gold" which is a series of word documents full of information about how to identify different codes on the cars, along with various other good information worth reading through.

Actually here it is for you: [www.dropbox.com]

Nick
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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: June 15, 2017 05:37AM

If its a 62 Spyder it should have an external coil ceramic ballast resistor,

J.O.

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2010 BMW F 650 GS
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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: briand ()
Date: June 15, 2017 08:12AM

Thanks guys. I was interested in the trim tag option code. I was under the impression that the 62's didn't have the turbo coded as an option. Still learning! I just found out about this particular car last night and am waiting for a call back.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: WCcorsa ()
Date: June 15, 2017 09:05AM

Check for the overheat buzzer (looks like a horn relay) mounted up under the dash on the driver's side. It will be plugged into the wiring haraness.
Also look for the tailpipe opening below the rear bumper on the right side. It should have a finished edge.
And, look for the metal cap plug on the firewall just below the fresh air duct.
Check for the spare wheel mount with a bump at the tip.
And it may also have the 1962-only rear limiting straps on the rear control arms.

Usually most "fake" Spyders lack all of these things.

1962 Spyders are pretty rare.

Good luck.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: June 15, 2017 11:07AM

Also doesn't the 1962 YH carb have the vacuum dashpot on it?

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/US Navy Veteran
Other cars: 2003 Porsche 996.2 Carrera; Boring daily drivers; 2005 Lotus Elise supercharged (SOLD); 1982 Porsche 911SC (SOLD)
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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: June 15, 2017 12:21PM

""Also doesn't the 1962 YH carb have the vacuum dashpot on it?""

It should

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: Benfro ()
Date: June 15, 2017 12:38PM

I have a 62 Spyder, it is an Oakland build with X in the ACC line. It has most of the stuff described on here, body-wise. It also has the clear front turn lenses, but not sure if that was unique to 62?

Ben

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: TomW ()
Date: June 15, 2017 01:27PM

All '62s had clear front turn lenses.
Amber front turn lenses started in 1963 (IIRC).

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: June 15, 2017 09:07PM

And....

62 Spyders had a vent for the YH on the other side of the firewall.

A real odd looking part. I've only seen one, and it was not mounted on the car.

The hose to it hooks up to the throat of the YH.

Might just be early 62 production.

Spyder's also had the angle bracket on the voltage regulator to keep it away from the air cleaner.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: June 15, 2017 09:11PM

62 Spyders have a small pipe on the chrome intake manifold that hooks up to the dashpot. Probably will also have a road draft tube.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: TomW ()
Date: June 16, 2017 01:14PM

1962s had a road draft tube down thru the Right Lower Shroud and NO hole in the upper shroud for a PCV Tube.

1962 was last year with NO emission control devices.
PCV was added in 1963.

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: June 16, 2017 04:20PM

If you go and look at it, please take a picture of the Fisher Trim tag and post it.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: June 17, 2017 09:41AM

And as TOMW pointed out with no PCV system, the air cleaner has no port for a PCV hose, only the small 1/4" one for the choke tube. Commonly the 62s are missing the dashpot and the fuel drain from the bottom of the carb because these are a hassle to reinstall. Also, people get rid of the 62 chrome turbo crossover because of the vacuum leak when the dashpot is discarded. Some 62 spyders are missing heavy duty suspension parts and metallic brakes after so much time and their replacement with aftermarket parts. Hard to say. Main things people change with clones are the engine, spyder dash and glovebox.

Crawford

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: briand ()
Date: June 17, 2017 09:58AM

The guy finally got back to me on thursday night late. Someone from Tahoe already bought it on Tuesday. Price was to good to pass up unless all the guy wanted were the knockoff wire wheels supposedly off a 63 vette. He claimed that it was a numbers matching car

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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: June 17, 2017 10:12AM

Be happy and move on... "not meant to be!"





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Re: what to look for on supposedly original 62 Spyder?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: June 17, 2017 07:57PM

briand Wrote:
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> The guy finally got back to me on thursday night
> late. Someone from Tahoe already bought it on
> Tuesday. Price was to good to pass up unless all
> the guy wanted were the knockoff wire wheels
> supposedly off a 63 vette. He claimed that it was
> a numbers matching car


Vette's didn't ever come with KH wire wheels. The only part shared with the Vette is the Corvair wire wheel knock off, and even that is in dispute with the NCRA. There is the claim that only the 3 bar knock off is correct for the knock off alloy wheels.

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