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WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 08, 2017 10:03AM

A huge THANK YOU for all your contributions to the tag requests.

As you may be aware, no GM documents have ever surfaced showing the model breakdown by assembly plant, just yearly totals and model totals...

Some efforts have been made to identify certain breakouts using Tonawanda engine plant totals and GM provided options percentages.

I have used a portion of the provided data to complete the first pass of the Production by Plant by Model breakdown.

I started with 1966 WRN and LOS assembly...

Here is a snap shot of the breakdown using the BODY number, week of build, and GM production option percentages data for some models (provided by Dave Newell for 140/180 production breakdown estimates).

I will start on 1965 next, then 60-63...as 64, 67, 68, & 69 involved only Willow Run assembly plant.

I am posting this as an image as trying to keep it texts destroys the formatting....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Date: May 08, 2017 11:30AM

I don't see the image, Rick.
I do see the image on the "How rare is rare" post.

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 08, 2017 11:44AM

Stupid server issues....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 08, 2017 11:47AM

I can't add images to this thread due to the Server issues...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Date: May 08, 2017 12:37PM

Try Imgur.com
make an account and you can upload photos that they keep.
When you upload keep them "private" then find them under your account.
When you view them there is a URL to copy so they can then be easily added to CCF posts right in the message:



Dan Davis - Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ 65 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn (my current driver!!)
~ 1964 Monza 'Vert ~ 65 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black int ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4
1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 09, 2017 06:36AM

Well, here we go.



Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: May 09, 2017 07:09AM

Vairy cool stuff...thank you Rick.

You really are a true Corvair Nut!!!

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 10, 2017 06:10AM

Thanks, I almost have the 65 breakdown complete and found an issue with my calc on 66 Corsas that needs fixed...

Then all LM will be done...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: May 10, 2017 06:49AM

Excellent info. I've never seen the Corsa production split out between the turbo's and the 140's.

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Date: May 10, 2017 07:31AM

Rick,
Thanks for compiling this interesting info.
Just a slight nit = the "total" model ID numbers should be revised.
They are incorrect for body style and model in several places.


Dan Davis - Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ 65 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn (my current driver!!)
~ 1964 Monza 'Vert ~ 65 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black int ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4
1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 10, 2017 08:32AM

LOL..to much copying and pasting on my part...

I am cleaning it all up and validating totals as I go...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 10, 2017 10:03AM

Here is an slightly updated version



Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: May 10, 2017 08:31PM

Lee just posted a body number of 1490 for an LOS Corsa coupe at the Ranch. The total above is only 989 for both 140 and 180 Corsa coupes. We're off by 500 or so bodies.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 11, 2017 05:31AM

Yes, both the Historic number of WRN and LOS Corsa 140's for both 65 and 66 are incorrect.

Dave Newell published those numbers many years ago by estimating production percentages and using Tonawanda engine totals.

However, it appears there was a strong increase in 140 hp CORSA (both coupes and verts) production at LOS that has been identified by my model breakdown quest.

The 180hp engine totals will remain for the totals of 65 & 66 180hp CORSA's however the 140hp estimates will go up to match the increase in BODY numbers.


I mentioned above that the 66 numbers had an issue that needed fixed...and that is it.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: May 11, 2017 06:54AM

Looking forward to see what you find!

Mike
YS-117

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1965 & 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 17, 2017 12:53PM

Here is my scrubbed and double checked versions...please look them over and see if you can find any issues I missed.

1965



1966



Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/17/2017 12:55PM by ral1963.

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: Bob Helt ()
Date: May 22, 2017 07:26AM

Interesting data. thanks, Rick.
Bob Helt

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Re: WRN vs LOS 1966 Corvair Production by MODEL
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: May 22, 2017 09:14AM

Thanks Bob,

I was going to send that to you along with the other revisions to the Master Production chart and model totals (post Dave's update).

I just wrapped up 65 & 66, with a revision today.

I am starting on 62-63 next, then I will tackle 60-61...

I hope to get them all done...but I fear the EM years wont go as quick as the LM years...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

corvair sprint
RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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