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V6 in Corvair
Posted by: jack bacon ()
Date: May 05, 2017 08:39PM

Has anyone used a Ford Ranger 2.6 V6 engine in a Corvair before?

Thanks!

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 05, 2017 09:35PM

Very unlikely... Not enough displacement / torque difference to even consider it...

But then "Necessity is the Muther of Invention"!!





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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: coleslaw31 ()
Date: May 06, 2017 05:33AM



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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: May 06, 2017 05:47AM

Why, why, why? Like we don't have enough head problems as it is...

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: May 06, 2017 06:07AM

No, but I strongly considered the Ford Ranger 2.8 EFI system back when I did my Fiero EFI conversion.

The 2.8 Ford system's fuel program, like the 2.8 Fiero, would be a good match to the 2.7 Corvair engine and the Ford system uses one less sensor (doesn't need vehicle speed).

GM's scan-tool diagnostic interface (ALDL) was what pushed me over. GM's interface was excellent and was eventually chosen by SAE as the industry pattern for OBD2. All other makers were required to use the GM interface. The first gen Ford diagnostic interface was extremely limited in what was available to the scan tool and glacially slow.

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61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: streblerm ()
Date: May 06, 2017 06:11AM

I'm not familiar with the 2.6l. I know the older rangers had a 2.8. The early ones were solid lifter engines prone to head problems. That engine was improved and later became 2.9l and eventually 4.0l. There were 3.0l engines that were pretty much RWD versions of the Taurus engine.

Like Matt said, not enough displacement or power difference to make the swap very interesting. Basically you would be installing a liquid cooled, two valve, pushrod engine in place of an air cooled one of similar displacement. That's a lot of work and weight for minimal performance gains. IMHO The only one worth considering would be the 4.0l, maybe.

Personally I think a 4.3l GM Would be the easiest option and would offer a significant displacement increase. They are plentiful, durable, cheap, and could be used with the existing transaxle.

If you are determined to create an unholy union of corvair and the F-word I would look toward the 2.7-3.5l ecoboost. 300+HP in a compact package with good aftermarket performance support.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: john.jackson ()
Date: May 06, 2017 08:12AM

The Ford EcoBoost engine is no light weigh package. Understand it is heavier than the 302 V8.

The best weight/power package may still be the Buick/Olds/Rover V8 family. But do not know of a current adapter source. Have to think there is a small market there.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: TomW ()
Date: May 06, 2017 08:39AM

A Ford engine in a Corvair!!!

OMG!! SACRILEGE!!

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: May 06, 2017 09:15AM

Can't the EcoBoost be improved to put out around 500 HP? That seems like plenty to get the car moving.

Personally, I like to see these cars, particularly racing, but I prefer to keep mine air cooled as God intended.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: May 06, 2017 12:09PM

GM has a 400+ horse power twin turbo 3.6 V6 in the Cadillac CTS and XTS V Sport models. No need for the Ford engine. Although use of either will require a trans swap.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 06, 2017 12:16PM

I'd recommend a '95 or older Buick 3800 FWD powerpack in the back of an FC...


OBD 1 and simple wiring. Cars have plenty of power and get close to 30 mpg on the Highway... few cooling problems compared to other cars..





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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: john.jackson ()
Date: May 06, 2017 12:37PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> I'd recommend a '95 or older Buick 3800 FWD
> powerpack in the back of an FC...
>
>
> OBD 1 and simple wiring. Cars have plenty of
> power and get close to 30 mpg on the Highway...
> few cooling problems compared to other cars..


Interesting idea. Any links?

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: May 06, 2017 01:02PM

Try googling "Buick 3800 swap" and you'll have all the links you can read.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 06, 2017 01:05PM

A few have been done







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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: DRCORVAIR ()
Date: May 08, 2017 09:48AM

Matt- do you have a link to that or similar builds?

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 08, 2017 10:53AM

That was off of C / L or Ebay and posted here...

supercharged3800vair has his in an LM cp

Here's all of his posts / pics

Start at the bottom of page 5 and work up

[corvaircenter.com]





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Re: V6 in Corvair
Date: May 08, 2017 12:32PM

If you go 3800 Buick, go with 1996 and up - the earlier ones have known "issues" with sensors/computer that cause the engine to shut down at random times.
Not fun.
I've got a 1994 Buick LeSabre with this problem and researching this online shows many others out there with the same issue.

The engine itself is an outstanding development story - and an "Engine of the Century" SAE award winner.


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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: May 08, 2017 03:23PM

There are multiple versions of the 3800 (3 to be exact).
The version most want is Series 2 from the mid 90's through the 2000's.
There were front drive versions of the old style 3.8 liter V6.

Lee J
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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: May 08, 2017 05:04PM

Just thinking. My Rav-4 has a v-6 mounted transverse. I hate the car but it does have a lot of power and I suspect it can be "tuned" to really put out a lot more. Simple enough to get one and install it. Everything already goes the right direction. It is an all wheel drive so not sure about that. It torque steers like a mother but mounted in the rear, that should not be an issue. Personally I would hate to see a Japanese engine in my GM car. It was just musings.

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Re: V6 in Corvair
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: May 08, 2017 05:55PM

Bob there are 3...... 4 cyl. Vairs out there

1 Toyota P/U Diesel to Vair 4 speed Corsa!!

2 Honda Turbo'd on a Vair transaxle

3 Infinity 4 cyl. Turbo'd on a VW transaxle in an LM also..

2 & 3 are at [corvairforum.com]





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