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2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: April 20, 2017 10:57PM

Hey everyone... been a while!

(1) with proper maintenance and care, is there an approximate life's expectancy for a motor? Let's say I drive like a grandp and assume no jackass driving methods smiling smiley can I expect 50k out of a 110 motor with no detonation, proper service and valve adjustments, assuming no parts shit the bed?

(2) is proper procedure for storing a powertrain (motor+trans+diff) to drain all fluids, plastic wrap everything and vacuum seal it, maybe with a few nitrogen purge cycles prior to sealing it? I have a 600 mile old powertrain that I want to keep ready for a long time, and don't want the seals to go bad, etc. what's the absolute best way to do this? Could be 10-20 years in storage... is it possible to keep fresh?

Thank you for the advice.

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 20, 2017 11:13PM

Interesting idea , I wonder if you could build a box and put it all under vacuum pressure ?

2 experts in this area come to mind :

-Walt Disney

-Han Solo

Rod Tetrault
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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: DAVECS1 ()
Date: April 21, 2017 05:11AM

Pretty sure there are quite a few of these cars kicking around with mostly original engines after 50+ years of abuse and sitting around in no special storage what so ever. I think if you had one in a climate controlled garage, that would be a huge start, if it is going to sit for years, get the tires off the ground and loosen the valve springs so they dont take a set

1964 Monza Convertible
110 4 speed
Peoria, IL

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: jcorvair ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:37AM

50,000 miles out of a 110 should be easily doable, if the valve seats are replaced and flywheel bolted (if standard). The cam gear may still come loose if a failsafe cam gear is not installed.

James
Maple Ridge, BC

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:40AM

Looking specifically for a way to store the powertrain itself, out of the car. Unfortunately I'll only have a backyard area to store it for 5-6 years until I have a house. Without running it regularly I'm not sure just keeping it outside without some sort of storage environment and fluids installed would be a good thing?

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:43AM

Build a shed or something...anything to keep it indoors in some way.

No matter how much you bundle it up it will get wet if left outside.

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: BobV66Vair ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:48AM

Take it apart and store the parts. The trans/diff will probably be OK if stored together. Leave the oil in it and wrap it as completely as possible.

Together, the engine will most certainly go bad.

Bob Vinnacombe
Sandy, Oregon
1965 Corsa 140 stock
1966 Monza Soon to be race car
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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:58AM

Outside storage is only good if storing scrap metal (or soon to be scrap metal).
I agree with Phil, no matter how well you package it... Mother Nature and the elements are quite destructive.

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: April 21, 2017 09:09AM

Set the engine up where you can run it once a month, but have an indoor storage for it. No need to preserve it. Just completely tarp it, when cooled down.

Al Lane
Ellabell GA

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Corsa Turbo Coupe, 180 hp 4 Spd
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
2015 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT
2015 GMC Sierra SLT Crew Cab
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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: April 21, 2017 04:30PM

How long will a 110 engine last???

Well.... My 64 Greenbrier engine gets overhauled about every 125,000 miles.
I bought it many moon ago with about 96,000 miles on the clock. It now has 371,000 miles on it.
Forged pistons, billet cam gear, rebuilt heads with new seats and guides... the cylinders are still standard. The crankshaft is still standard - standard.
I change the oil every 2500 miles and do all regular maintenance.

Then there are the other Corvairs I have put long miles on!

Hope this answers your question.smileys with beer

Corventure Dave

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Re: 2 questions: powertrain life length + long term storage procedure
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: April 22, 2017 06:52AM

Should easily pass 100,000 miles if the right oils are used.

As for storage that long outside. How about a small storage shed? Then spray oil into the cylinders, wrap the whole thing up with some moisture absorbing bags, Then a looser fitting plastic bag with moisture absorption stuff you can see and change out periodically.

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