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140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: AHTex ()
Date: April 15, 2017 11:15AM

Hey all,

Im relatively new to the Corvair scene and recently decided to begin my search for a first generation corvair. Its always been a goal of mine to restore a classic car and immediately fell in love with these. So I decided to get serious. After a search I stumbled upon a 1964 monza 900 that was practically in my backyard. In researching and speaking to the owner, I found that somewhere down the line a previous owner had changed out the stock engine with a 140hp corsa 4 speed. My question is, is this common? And what if any problems could this create down the line. Ive been all over this forum and really enjoy it, so I decided to join and post.

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2017 11:22AM

Welcome to the CCF! Let us know where you are in case someone is close by and either knows the car, or can can go with you next time..


The engine swap is common! The 140 hp 4 carb engine is our best "street Performer"

But you have nothing to compare how it runs/ drives... many cars for sale are projects with problems...

Restoring is easy.. takes time and $$$

But you need something good to start with..





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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: AHTex ()
Date: April 15, 2017 11:40AM

Hey thanks!

I haven't made the purchase yet, just doing my diligence on gathering information. I live in south texas. I understand the time and effort involved, and im not really on any timeline, but wanted to start with a solid car. To my knowledge, it was bought and driven to its current location about 15 yrs ago with hopes of a restore that just didnt happen. You know the whole time and money thing. It appears to have minor body issues and has been garage stored. All of the glass, trim etc is intact. I know I havent put too much info out there, but what would be a fair price?

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2017 11:51AM

No idea until you drive the car...


I'm on the west coast...prices can vary

A non driver with body rot.... $200- $500





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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: April 15, 2017 12:28PM

A 140 4sp in a 64 is a very nice combination.

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: April 15, 2017 12:39PM

South Texas is vague. The are clubs in many towns. Look at CORSA website for help also name your town there are many from Texas here.

As stated a 4 carb/4spd is great. In the FAQ here there is a list of things to check when buying.

Good luck and welcome to CCF

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4 1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2017 12:41PM by MattNall.

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: AHTex ()
Date: April 15, 2017 01:10PM

Hey thanks for the info! I was hoping there was a check list available. If I do decide to go through with it, is there also a list of what I need to run through mechanically (i mean walk for years probably)as far as restoration?

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: AHTex ()
Date: April 15, 2017 01:33PM

Oh forgot, San Antonio, Tx...

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2017 01:57PM

You'll have to drive and inspect the car first...

If the engine hasn't started in years....get with us and we'll provide a list depending on the car's history..





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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2017 02:41PM

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: AHTex ()
Date: April 15, 2017 03:19PM

Great! Thanks for the info. Ill reply back after I go and ck it out.

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: stitch ()
Date: April 15, 2017 04:22PM

I'm a member of the ACCA. Tho' I'm not that active now. Good club! I live in Schertz just north of SA. We have members that will walk you through the buying process. What to look for etc. RUST is the biggest issue. And Matt Nall has an excellent checklist in the FAQS,,,,Drive on...smileys with beer

"If you can't fix it with a Hammer, you have an Electrical problem."
Stitch...
Schertz, Texas.
(Smallish town/burg 17 mi. NE of San Antonio)

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: April 17, 2017 05:49AM

After 15 years I would not try to start it with gas from the tank.
I remove the supply line to the fuel pump and run a short steel line and a rubber hose into a gas can. I also install my known good pair of test carbs and secondary block-off plates. I don't usually have much success running the carbs that have been sitting for 15 years without disassembly for cleaning and new accelerator pump cups.
I would not introduce the gas tank without draining the tank and removing the sender to evaluate. No use pumping old crap into the carburetors.
I would be surprised if the hydraulic brake system is working after that long.
In short, I would not expect to be able to test drive a car that's been sitting for 15 years. Actually longer as the claim is only that it was driven once to it's current location at that time.
This is just my opinion. Sometimes people put gas in and get them going, they must be luckier than I am. I'm certainly not trying to discourage you, a 64 Corvair is a joy to have and you can have great satisfaction rescuing an orphan.
Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: stiffneck ()
Date: April 17, 2017 07:59AM

Hey there!

I just purchased my 64. If I remember correctly it's a 900 model and it has the 4 carb 140hp engine.

I have been driving the car for only a very short while but my God.... I frigging love the power this car has! I mean it's a sports car right? It sure seems like it is. People ask? what? it's a corvette? haha.

I will soon have a chance to drive a 110hp corvair but the 140hp is really really fun! I can see why you guy's like to race them!

jon

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: April 17, 2017 12:26PM

I've had a 140HP in my 64 for over 30 years.

Runs good.

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: April 17, 2017 08:44PM

The only real issue on any "140 into an early" swap is exhaust System. The early model never had a left side exhaust. It can be frustrating to find the proper location and clearance for a true Dual exhaust. This would be a good application for a two-into-one, single right side, low restriction set up.

Seth Emerson

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: corvkid50 ()
Date: April 21, 2017 07:23AM

If you want sone fun, drop in a 3.1 bigbore with headers!! Ask Matt how that feels. he drove it a few years back!! Right Matt?

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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 21, 2017 08:24AM

So true! A real pleasure to dive!





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Re: 140hp 4 speed in a 1964 monza 900
Posted by: Kyle_in_Mich ()
Date: April 21, 2017 11:42AM

stiffneck Wrote:
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>
> I have been driving the car for only a very short
> while but my God.... I frigging love the power
> this car has! I mean it's a sports car right? It
> sure seems like it is. People ask? what? it's a
> corvette? haha.
>

Lets just say I am excited to hear this for myself! I have driven a handful of 110's and just bought a 140 that i will be driving home (from TX to MI) in a week and a half. I was really hoping i wouldn't be underwhelmed by the power.

Glad you like the car, drive it more and you have even more fun!!

CORSA Member
Traverse City,MI
Daily driver- Bicycle
Fun driver/project- 65 Corsa 140/4 speed

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