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Turbine oil
Posted by: corvairbusguy ()
Date: April 12, 2017 12:15PM

Hello all, I havent posted in way toooo long.

Is that guy in Bolivia, the petroleum engineer, still here?

I have a couple gallons of mil-l-23699 and i want to know how to best use it, straight or mixed, etc, etc


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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: toms73novass ()
Date: April 12, 2017 12:19PM

Yes he just posted in the fuse box thread his screen name is richard1

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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: April 12, 2017 05:46PM

Here's a blog talking about using that jet oil in autos.

[www.bobistheoilguy.com]

Just a pointer, I worked as a aviation mechanic for decades. All oil drained out of any jet engine I worked still looked new. This is because engine manufacturers protect their engine bearings from getting in contact with adverse gases. Whether in the compressor or the turbine, fresh air from one of the stages of compressors is used to seal the bearings and to keep the oil in the bearing cavity. Jet engine oil filters are used to keep contaminants generated in the oil system from reentering the oil system prior to oil going to bearings. And the have chip detectors to check on a schedule or by a caution light telling mechanics an issue has arisen in the oil system.

Can you say the same for auto engines. Nope. Oil is used to remove contaminants from oil washed surfaces and routed back to the filter via the pick up and pump..

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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: April 13, 2017 05:17AM

Yep, I'm still around.

That oil is not something you want to put in a car engine. It is an Ester formulation that would probably equate to something like a 0W-5 or less (SAE tables don't go that low).

So viscosity is way too low for gasoline engines.

The Ester base oil means it should only go in things that are designed for Ester oils. They are very solvent and will soften and swell seals. In that regard, one ounce in your manual transmission would probably solve any leaks you might have, but 3 or 4 ounces would probably eat the seals completely in a few weeks. (I'm guessing a little on these dosis, as I do not have the exact type of esters used)

I have a type of ester that I used 25 ml to seal my Vair transmission, and mix 5% in Dexron as an Automatic Transmission Conditioner (so by the time the end user puts that 16 ounces in 5 qts of ATF, the work is done by a 0.5% solution).

Not a lot you can do with it.... Soften your windshield wiper blades, soften window seals, might make a good paint remover, etc. Just be careful with it.

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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: corvairbusguy ()
Date: April 13, 2017 10:03AM

wow, thats disapointing . what about the lawn mower? Is it safe to flush a car motor?

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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 13, 2017 10:20AM

I would just use it to oil things.... it's like Penetrating oil....it's not meant for Recip engine rod / main loads... [ "hammering" from combustion".

Turbines "Float" in their bearings..... in fact some small gas turbines use AIR!!

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Re: Turbine oil
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Date: April 13, 2017 11:26AM


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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: jetcat ()
Date: April 13, 2017 10:00PM

It's also nasty stuff health wise as well. We used BP2380 or Aeroshell 560 in our turbines. Both were MS23699 compliant. Be very cautious handling it.

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Re: Turbine oil
Posted by: corvairbusguy ()
Date: April 18, 2017 09:57AM

jetcat Wrote:
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> It's also nasty stuff health wise as well. We used
> BP2380 or Aeroshell 560 in our turbines. Both were
> MS23699 compliant. Be very cautious handling it.


Really? Doesnt seem to bother me unlike jet fuel or skydrol

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