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Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 16, 2017 08:15AM

Anyone out there have a 62 with ACC code M on the trim tag?

It is the only 62 ACC code not decoded? It has to be a very limited ordered option and specific combo unique to 62... any thoughts?

Could be specific to Willow Run or not...

Only 1 example has ever shown up and it was a tag only as the car had been destroyed...

1962 WRN Codes as we know them...

Willow Run Body tag codes (NO Group Numbers i.e. no numeric indicator)
• A = Direct Air heater (Always listed 1st and listed on every WR car in survey)
• D = RPO 690 Spyder Turbo option
• E = RPO 7** Bucket seats on 969 Sedans
• H = RPO 427 Padded dash
• M = ? Found on Monza Coupe build date 10C, ACC AM *
• N = RPO 373 Power folding top
• K = RPO 398 Tinted Glass (All windows)
• J = RPO 398 Tinted Windshield Only
• L- = Convertible top code followed by a number indicating color.
Top color 1 = White, 2 = Black, 3 = Blue, 4 = Cream/Tan
• O = RPO 651 (4 speed) Manual Transmission (no code for PG for WR cars)
• B = RPO 114 Air Conditioning
• F = RPO 664 Folding rear seat. (optional on 500/700 cars)
• C = RPO 248 Rear door armrests (optional on 500/700 models)

Picture of tag from a 1962 Monza Coupe..

Rick Loving
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RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: January 16, 2017 10:43AM

Wow! How did I miss the "M" code when I was doing the 1962 bodytag survey. At the time of the Survey in 2005, I only had 1 car with the "M" code. Somehow it slipped my mind when I was listing all the letter codes for 1962!! It was a 4spd Monza 2 door coupe. Since 2005 I have added many more bodytags to my files and Have added a few more cars with the "M" code. All were Monza hardtops coupe and sedans. No Monza Convertibles and Wagons, and no 700 series bodytags with the "M" code in my files.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: January 16, 2017 10:45AM

Heres 2 more tags. Anyone see a commonality to the codes on these tags that might help decode the "M" code.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 16, 2017 12:24PM

Well...All Monza's, odds are it is a Monza specific accessory unless a 500/700 tag shows up...

I could never tell if this OA tag was an H or a M...Thoughts?

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
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RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 16, 2017 12:35PM

Ohhh....

What about RPO Z02 Pushbutton AM Radio & Rear seat Speaker

ACC code K for Oakland built Monza's but nothing in the WR ACC code list!!!

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
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Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: January 16, 2017 12:38PM

Also it fits that it hasn't been found on a vert or wagon as there is no rear package shelf to put the rear speaker!!!

BINGO!!

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
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Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd



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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: VairSedanMan ()
Date: April 14, 2019 05:44PM

Hello, I saw a body tag on a WR '62 Monza coupe build date 08E. Body number 3700. Paint 900-5, ACC: AMO . It's a 102/4 speed. Wondering what M is for '62 as well!

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: April 14, 2019 05:58PM

I thought that the rear speaker was not available until '63? Late 4 door and conv could have a rear speaker.

RJ tools
Salem,Oregon

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:53PM

VairSedanMan, Do you stil have access to the car with M ACC code?

Does it or did it have a AM Radio with Rear seat speaker?

RJ, I am going to have to dig and see if I can locate any and accessory catalogs for 62 and see if the AM radio and rear seat speaker was added or deleted for 62 under any FOA or RPO.

I know option Z02 AM Radio with rear seat speaker is listed for 63 & 64, but was changed for 65 and later.

Was there an option with a different code for 62, changed to Z02 for 63 & 64...

ACC M for 1962 Willow Run cars only makes sense for this option....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: April 14, 2019 08:04PM

I was always under the impression that there would be no code on that line, unless it required something from Fisher Body to do to the shell before they sent it over to the assembly plant. Can't see how it could be the rear package shelf speaker, since it doesn't require anything more than cutting a hole in the cardboard package shelf, and running the wire from the radio to the rear speaker.

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Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest.

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: April 15, 2019 05:31AM

ral1963 Wrote:
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> I could never tell if this OA tag was an H or a
> M...Thoughts?

Looking at many other tags in this thread that sure looks like an "H" to me.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: April 15, 2019 03:12PM

I am also with the H on the ACC tag I listed, not M.

Junkman, Fisher used the Trim tag like the assembly line used build sheets. The code was just to remind the operator that something different or specific had to happen that was fairly out of the norm and potentially easy to miss.

It is odd as there are differences between plants on options that use ACC codes vs not having a code due to that particular buildings processes or possible re-occurring quality misses.

I would have to assume that like the side glass, backlite, and windshield, Fisher also ran the radio and antenna wiring and since the majority of the cars did not “need” special wiring to the rear of the car, the code was for at least this wiring, but not necessarily the actual speaker.

None of my 62 brochures show the rear speaker listed as a 62 option, but a lot of them don’t show the Spyder option either as most were pre-printed prior to production. More research needs to be done and examples documented of 62 coupes and sedans with ACC code M and factory rear speaker installs before this code is confirmed on way or the other…

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: JerryM ()
Date: April 15, 2019 04:12PM

What's the code for seat belts in '62?

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: April 15, 2019 05:16PM

For 1962, the seatbelt option FOA-148 was not needed on the ACC line of the Fisher Trim tag as they were just a bolt in item.

FOA-148 was ordered in individual seats, so you either ordered one or two depending on what seat or seats you wanted to have belts.

Seat belts did not appear on Fisher tags until 1964.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: redrevo117 ()
Date: April 15, 2019 05:55PM

I have a 63 that has ACC 2M

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: April 15, 2019 07:15PM

Fisher body punched the hole for the antenna, but the antenna was shipped loose in the trunk for the dealer to install on the car at delivery to the buyer. Knowing this has given me another thought.. If the dealer ordered the car as a radio delete, but wanted the hole in the fender punched, that is a possibility?

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Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest.

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Re: Another tag Search 1962 Fisher Tag with ACC code M
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: April 16, 2019 10:53AM

redrevo117,

Each year and plant were different ACC codes...

For 1963, 2M was the code for Powerglide trans....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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