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66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: 1STLM ()
Date: November 25, 2016 09:16AM

Is there any registry or information out there that would give a good Tndication of how many 66 Corsa Turbo Convertibles are surviving? The CORSA vehicle registration seems to be down and not available but there seemed to be quite few listed there earlier. It also seems like quite a few forum members are owners also. Just curious....

Brice

66 Corsa Turbo Convertible

Bozeman, Montana

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: Joe West ()
Date: November 25, 2016 05:28PM

I speculate that any estimates in the number of any year or type of Corvair remaining is... well... speculation. :-)


1964 Spyder Convertible, Laurinburg North Carolina
Restoration Website: [www.corvairspyder.com]

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: November 25, 2016 06:02PM

David Trull keeps the registry for the 66 turbo convertibles. He posts on here as Bigwave.

Lee J

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:33AM

Hi Brice

There are 82 cars on the 1966 Turbo Convertible registry. Send me the Vin, engine block number, and a list of known Options along with a pic of your bodytag, and I'll add you to the list and send you a copy.

Entries are listed like the following example:


66 turbo convt – John Smith NY anywhere@yahoo.net
Tuxedo Black / Red int/ Black top
VIN# 107676W110349 Block# T1008RL
Options: Quick steering, rear ant, dlx belts, turbocharged.

General Motors Corporation
10B D
ST 66-10767 WRN 508 BODY
TR 740- A-2 PAINT
W2S4O5Y




.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: vairjunkie ()
Date: November 26, 2016 08:39AM

Hey Dave,
Thanks for keeping up the registry. Would you please send me a copy of the latest version? I'm sure my original version is missing quite a few!
Thanks,
Eric

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:43PM

Sure Eric
send me an email to

corsa@cox.net

And I'll attach a copy to the reply. I'm sure they are more unregistered 66 Turbo verts out there, but I have not added a car to the registry in two years. Maybe Brice will be a new onewinking smiley

Brice, If you would like to add your car to the registry, just email me at corsa@cox.net


Dave

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: Nader's Nemesis ()
Date: November 27, 2016 07:37AM

Dave , do you have a separate list for Canadian built units ?
Be interested too.
Doug.

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: 1STLM ()
Date: December 04, 2016 06:12PM

Dave my car info is on the way.

Brice

66 Corsa Turbo Convertible

Bozeman, Montana

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: vwbusman66 ()
Date: December 07, 2016 07:53AM

Bigwave Wrote:
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> Sure Eric
> send me an email to
>
> corsa@cox.net
>
> And I'll attach a copy to the reply. I'm sure they
> are more unregistered 66 Turbo verts out there,
> but I have not added a car to the registry in two
> years. Maybe Brice will be a new onewinking smiley
>
> Brice, If you would like to add your car to the
> registry, just email me at corsa@cox.net
>
>
> Dave

Is the turbo vert that Tom Hughes (MD) sent to the Ranch on the registry? If not, I'm sure Jeff or Tom would be glad to get you as much info as possible.

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James Keller
Kingsville, MD (21087)
In memory of Bob Helt 1930-2018

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: December 08, 2016 02:49PM

Kent Sullivan does the registry for Canadian built units.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: December 08, 2016 02:56PM

Anyone ever do 65 turbo verts ???????/

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: glivorsi ()
Date: December 09, 2016 08:00AM

Do we know how many were built? I know there are numbers for Corsa verts but is there a breakdown between 140 and 180s?

Greg in Wildwood, MO (part of the St. Louis urban sprawl)

1965 Monza Vert 110PG, Crocus Yellow with black interior and top

2014 Honda Accord V6 (DD)
2017 Honda Pilot (wifemobile)
2012 Chevy Sonic 1.8L (kid's car)
1997 Honda CBR1100XX
2006 Mazdaspeed 6 (no longer own)

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: vwbusman66 ()
Date: December 09, 2016 09:04AM

glivorsi Wrote:
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> Do we know how many were built? I know there are
> numbers for Corsa verts but is there a breakdown
> between 140 and 180s?

I believe there were 1,187 Corsa turbo verts built in 66.

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James Keller
Kingsville, MD (21087)
In memory of Bob Helt 1930-2018

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: December 09, 2016 09:24AM

vwbusman66 Wrote:
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> glivorsi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do we know how many were built? I know there
> are
> > numbers for Corsa verts but is there a
> breakdown
> > between 140 and 180s?
>
> I believe there were 1,187 Corsa turbo verts built
> in 66.

That is incorrect. There were a total of 1,951 turbos of both coupe and convertible built in 1966 at all 3 plants building turbo Corsas. David Trull has a break down which is just an estimate . We do know how many turbo engines were produced based on the number of engine cases that were stamped with the RL code at Tonawanda.
The numbers are an estimate but the numbers based on convertible body style I seem to recall were under 600 convertibles had the turbocharged engine in 1966 with the rarest ones being built in LA and in Canada.

Lee J



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2016 09:27AM by gnvair.

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: vwbusman66 ()
Date: December 09, 2016 10:39AM

> That is incorrect. There were a total of 1,951
> turbos of both coupe and convertible built in 1966
> at all 3 plants building turbo Corsas. David Trull
> has a break down which is just an estimate . We do
> know how many turbo engines were produced based on
> the number of engine cases that were stamped with
> the RL code at Tonawanda.
> The numbers are an estimate but the numbers based
> on convertible body style I seem to recall were
> under 600 convertibles had the turbocharged engine
> in 1966 with the rarest ones being built in LA and
> in Canada.

I guess I was confusing total turbos with turbo convertibles.
I appreciate the knowledge!

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James Keller
Kingsville, MD (21087)
In memory of Bob Helt 1930-2018

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 09, 2016 12:38PM

This is the most widely accepted estimate based on the numbers of engines built at Tonawanda...

USA PRODUCTION

1966
Corvair Corsa
66-10737--- 2d Cpe 140---- 5,964*
66-10737--- 2d Cpe Turbo-- 1,366*
66-10767--- Conv 140------ 2,557*
66-10767--- Turbo Conv----- 585*
Total USA # 1966 turbos:1951

CANADA
1966
Corvair Corsa total 66 turbos:237
66-10737--- 2d Cpe 140---- 539*
66-10737--- 2d Cpe Turbo-- 143*
66-10767--- Conv 140----- 117*
66-10767--- Turbo Conv---- 94* * = estimate
Total CANADIAN # 1966 Turbos built 237.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Ember Red Sprint Vert 140/4sp
64 Rupp Highback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
66 Rupp Lowback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
69 Rupp Marina Blue Chevy Jr
69 Rupp Hugger Orange Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: December 09, 2016 03:32PM

ral1963 Wrote:
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> This is the most widely accepted estimate based on
> the numbers of engines built at Tonawanda...
>
> USA PRODUCTION
>
> 1966
> Corvair Corsa
> 66-10737--- 2d Cpe 140----
> 5,964*
> 66-10737--- 2d Cpe Turbo--
> 1,366*
> 66-10767--- Conv 140------
> 2,557*
> 66-10767--- Turbo Conv----- 585*
> Total USA # 1966 turbos:1951
>
> CANADA
> 1966
> Corvair Corsa total 66 turbos:237
> 66-10737--- 2d Cpe 140----
> 539*
> 66-10737--- 2d Cpe Turbo--
> 143*
> 66-10767--- Conv 140-----
> 117*
> 66-10767--- Turbo Conv---- 94* * =
> estimate
> Total CANADIAN # 1966 Turbos built 237.

Rick, I do seem to recall that the 1,951 number was all turbos including the Canadian cars. If not, that would mean there were 2,188 turbos which I don't think is correct.

Lee J

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 09, 2016 07:56PM

The 1,951 is the total for USA built (WRN and LOS) Corsa turbos and 237 for Canadian (Oshawa), the total production for US and Canada combined was 2,188...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Ember Red Sprint Vert 140/4sp
64 Rupp Highback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
66 Rupp Lowback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
69 Rupp Marina Blue Chevy Jr
69 Rupp Hugger Orange Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: gnvair ()
Date: December 10, 2016 06:05AM

ral1963 Wrote:
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> The 1,951 is the total for USA built (WRN and LOS)
> Corsa turbos and 237 for Canadian (Oshawa), the
> total production for US and Canada combined was
> 2,188...


I just looked at the registry info and see that now.
The 1,951 number was the total that has been around since the 70's in numerous Corvair books.
I has been common knowledge that the only reason we know any of the turbo production amounts were because of the manifests that Dave Newell was able to retrieve from the Tonawanda plant. Just like a lot of other info (or lack of) from that time it was always explained that it was unavailble due to the records being lost in a fire.
I am just curious as I was always under the assumption that the numbers were based on how many of a given engine had a particular stamping. This was how the 153 numnber came to be for the air conditioned 66 Corsas. Since Canadian cars had their engines made at the same plant and used the same RL stamping, I wonder why the additional 237 car did not show up in that. Obviously they were able to just break out the US built cars for some reason. Why were the other 237 RL coded engines left out?

Lee J

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Re: 66 Corsa Turbo Convertible Survival
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 11, 2016 10:13AM

The issue is that there isn't a document that says X amount of this or that was made...

There is however, "options/orders/production percentage information, so the numbers are "estimates" based on taking total number of produced cars, and doing the math based on reported percentages.

There were most likely more engine built of each type than there were actual cars built, based on some engines failing before leaving the plant or other issues.

All of these number are "accepted estimates"...and not necessary 100% exact....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Ember Red Sprint Vert 140/4sp
64 Rupp Highback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
66 Rupp Lowback Cardinal Red Monza Jr
69 Rupp Marina Blue Chevy Jr
69 Rupp Hugger Orange Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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