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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Dneprdude ()
Date: August 27, 2016 06:32PM

smileys with beer

Matt
Surf City, NC

63 Monza Conv. 102/PG
90s Dnepr Mt-11 - K650 clone
96 Honda VFR

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 31, 2016 05:58PM


Finished clearing all components and cables from the undercarriage. This FC was mud-wasp heaven; fortunately only the mud remains. And fortunately, there are no remaining systems left to be found unrestorable, like the gas tank and the master cylinder.
The absence of fuel in the gas tank was explained by the huge hole in the top.


And the master cylinder is rusted and blistered inside.

Both are junk.

The undercarriage looks really well protected by undercoating below the front cowl ...


In the wheel wells ...


All around and over the brake and clutch pedal pivots ...

There seems to be a fair amount of exterior paint overspray down here. OK, I haven't removed the steering gear box yet; I'm saving that job for later.

Over the entire center undercarriage and rocker panels ...


Pretty much everywhere except ... above the gas tank, of course!

And here we see some unmolested undercarriage paint. Dark brown with faint overtones of green. Help in identifying this paint would be much appreciated.

I've been testing different ways of removing the undercoating, and although there is no easy way, I have worked out a system that seems to work pretty well... Coming soon to a Forum near you!

Steve




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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Nickshu ()
Date: August 31, 2016 06:49PM

SteveInMarietta Wrote:
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> And fortunately,
> there are no remaining systems left to be found
> unrestorable.

Boy I know that feeling...only because everything is off the car! Nice work so far!!!

Nick
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1964 Monza Spyder Convertible #435 - Rotisserie restored - Check out my restoration thread here: [corvaircenter.com]
Recreational Mechanic/CORSA Member/COG Supporting Member/US Navy Veteran
Other fun car: Porsche 911 GT3
Boring daily drivers
Northern Colorado, USA



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2016 06:49PM by Nickshu.

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 31, 2016 07:51PM

Steve, you are moving along at a rather rapid pace. And it was fun hanging out with you at the Homecoming last week. Keep up the good work.

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 31, 2016 07:57PM

Hi Tim,
Yeah, that was a good time at the Homecoming.

Moving right along trying to beat the onset of short days, cold weather, and lots of grading.

There was something about which I was supposed to remind you ... what was that??? smiling smiley

Steve

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: August 31, 2016 08:31PM

looks like a car master cylinder and not FC ... at least our FC had a big rectangular reservoir.

cool FC Ill be sure to watch this thread. drinking smiley

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: August 31, 2016 09:33PM

Is your FC a 61 or 62?
Steve

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: August 31, 2016 09:36PM

ahh yes ours was an early , so yours is the same as the car! makes it much easier $$ to replace I'm sure

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Date: August 31, 2016 09:59PM

That is a correct FC Brake Master Cylinder for 1963


This is the one on my all original 1963 Rampside - note the floor access hole above the lid of the M/C - just right to remove the round cover and fill it up.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: September 01, 2016 02:36AM

The master cylinder from Dan's all original 63 Rampside is different than the one in my 63 "Firebrier" and which I have no reason to suspect has been changed. Here it is shown here with lid and details:

Note the spring lid retainer and bleeder valve.

Dan's Rampside appears have a 5461000 or 5462031 62-63 MC, whereas my Greenbrier has the 64 5465094 or 5464735 MC (There is some lack of clarity concerning the MC part numbers)

These two MCs are shown in the 63 and 64 FC assembly manuals:


Why the difference between our two 63 FCs? According to the 64 FC assembly manual the new MC design was introduced in May 63. If I am looking at the correct VIN, the serial number of Dan's Rampside (104208) would have it off the assembly line in December of 62, whereas my GB's serial number (113654) places it on the street in July 1963 after the switch to the new MC had occurred.
Steve

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: igottajob2 ()
Date: September 01, 2016 05:22AM

Great work!!!!smileys with beer

Minneapolis,MN

1965 500 Coupe
95HP

Built the 1st week of April of 65 at willow run.
500 coupe. The only factory accessory is a rear antenna.
White with a red interior.
Now black with black and red interior.


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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Carburetor ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:57AM

SteveInMarietta Wrote:
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> According to the 64 FC assembly manual the new MC design was introduced in May 63.

How did you determine this? If you're looking at the date in the revision record at the bottom of a particular sheet, that date is when the sheet was updated with revised information per a particular ECR (Engineering Change Request) and has nothing to do with when the change was actually implemented in the assembly plant.

Jim C.
Chesterfield, MI

1966 Monza convertible (140 / PG)
2017 Chevrolet Trax (daily driver)
2017 Chevrolet Volt (wife's ride)


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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:41AM

Jim,
Good point. The actual change on the assembly line likely happened well after the revision date on the sheet. It seems to me that a change such as this was not necessarily linked to the change in model year.
Steve

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Kims65 ()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:55AM

Point of reference...

My '64 GB (early Nov. '63 out of Flint by S/N) came to me with a thumbscrew top MC as shown above. I can't say for sure it was the original, but looked like it. When replaced, I got a bail style new one.

John G.
'64 Greenbrier
Mission Viejo, CA

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: September 08, 2016 03:09AM


Suspension parts have been blasted and epoxy primed (click on image for larger image):

After reinstalling bushings and ball joints, all of these parts will be painted flat black with John Deere Blitz Black. Since I've left the epoxy untop-coated for quite a while, I'll lightly sand it before painting.

Parts that were originally unpainted, such as brake flanges, drums, etc., and assorted other items (shown here blasted)


have been painted with SEM self-etching primer. These parts will be painted to match their original metallic appearance (as best possible). I've decided to use Eastwood "Spray Gray" on the cast steel parts, and "Detail Gray" on the stamped parts.

Steve

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: cad-kid ()
Date: September 08, 2016 05:11AM

thumbs up

Jeremy (cad-kid)
Kronenwetter, WI (Central Wisconsin)
CORSA Member#031129
SOLD-9-2016 65 Monza 4spd/140
My 65 Monza thread
My YouTube page yawning smiley

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: September 08, 2016 07:00AM

Nice work! I enjoy following this thread.

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 08, 2016 07:00AM

Very nice! Want to do my Rampside next?

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: September 08, 2016 10:50AM

Boy. You don't mess around,Steve.
Since we're talking suspension...
Spiral shocks.
Did the fire van come with these?
Is it possible to actually rebuild/restore them?
My Loadside still has them and I was curious.

Good work!

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Re: FC Fire Dept Truck Restoration
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:00AM

No spiral shocks in the Firebrier; Does that mean they had been replaced at some point? I have never read anything about rebuilding shocks, but maybe...?

Craig, I'll put your Rampside in the queue.

Steve

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